HOW TO: Cleaning the Wheel Speed Sensors FAQ
#161
ACS Unavailable prevent starting?
Our 2002 XK8 has been sitting for about 1 month and when my wife went out to go to the grocery nothing but a single click and the warnings ACS Unavailable, TRAC Unavailable, etc. Would dirty wheel speed sensors keep the car from starting? Don't think that's my problem and no Jag dealer nearby for service. The battery is fairly new - maybe 1 year old. I'm thinking maybe something shorted out but am at a loss about what/how to track that down.
#162
#163
Our 2002 XK8 has been sitting for about 1 month and when my wife went out to go to the grocery nothing but a single click and the warnings ACS Unavailable, TRAC Unavailable, etc. Would dirty wheel speed sensors keep the car from starting? Don't think that's my problem and no Jag dealer nearby for service. The battery is fairly new - maybe 1 year old. I'm thinking maybe something shorted out but am at a loss about what/how to track that down.
Several members, including me, have had problems with the battery cable. The battery is fully charged, but a loose connection inside the cable prevents enough current from flowing through it to start the car. It will allow the lights to come on, but as soon as you turn the key to start there's a pop sound from the trunk and the traction control lights turn on (etc., etc.)
Just try it and let us know what happens.
#164
#165
Big thanks to Rev Sam. I had same problem last week and booked Jag into dealer but then found this really useful tip and tried it and it worked...so far so good. Only problem I encountered was front left bolt had seized and sheared when I tried to remove so now have that to deal with but car is 9 years old and previously spent it's life in a wet Scotland so not surprising to find corrosion on bolts. Thanks again for brilliant description with clear pics.
#167
Thanks a million for the really detailed instructions on how to remove & clean the wheel sensors....if I could just let you know my progress, maybe you could offer a bit of advice, as it didn't go 100% smoothly!
basically, the problem I was getting was ABS light on, and DSC warning and amber light flashing (not solid). Whenever I got above about 25mph, the car would go into "limp mode", with no power (at the throttle) until the speed go back below 10mph.
The power then came back but this kept happening...you solution sounded perfect for what sounded like the cause of the problem.
I managed to remove and clean the rear wheel sensors, but unfortunately, the two front sensor's bolts look like they are corroded and I cannot get any wrench or ratchet to grip the bolts to remove them, so I am unable to remove and clean the front sensors...
Unfortunately, just cleaning the rear sensors hasn't fixed the problem. I still get the ABS light coming on and the DSC and flashing amber light with limp mode kicking in above 25mph.
Neither of these lights are on when the car starts, they only come on when the car hits the "magic" 25mph...
Any thoughts or advice would be extremely welcome!
Am I now limited to taking the car to a garage to see if they can remove the sensors? There really is nothing to grip to try and remove the front bolts!
Thanks again for the great instructions and video
basically, the problem I was getting was ABS light on, and DSC warning and amber light flashing (not solid). Whenever I got above about 25mph, the car would go into "limp mode", with no power (at the throttle) until the speed go back below 10mph.
The power then came back but this kept happening...you solution sounded perfect for what sounded like the cause of the problem.
I managed to remove and clean the rear wheel sensors, but unfortunately, the two front sensor's bolts look like they are corroded and I cannot get any wrench or ratchet to grip the bolts to remove them, so I am unable to remove and clean the front sensors...
Unfortunately, just cleaning the rear sensors hasn't fixed the problem. I still get the ABS light coming on and the DSC and flashing amber light with limp mode kicking in above 25mph.
Neither of these lights are on when the car starts, they only come on when the car hits the "magic" 25mph...
Any thoughts or advice would be extremely welcome!
Am I now limited to taking the car to a garage to see if they can remove the sensors? There really is nothing to grip to try and remove the front bolts!
Thanks again for the great instructions and video
#168
Have you looked at the pressure in your tires and or the tire size? The ABS takes a pulse reading from each wheel and an uneven rotation could cause this. I have a test for a 99 xk8 that might be of help see the attached.
Link JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
Link JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource
#169
I always appreciate any new ideas, thanks...
I did have 1 new front tyre fitted a few months back, and I wonder whether they did something (or didn't do something) to upset the balance?
It was done by one of those mobile tyre fitters, as I couldn't get my car to a regular tyre fitter...I wonder...Hmmmm
How could I check?
Could an unbalanced tyre cause both the ABS light and DSC message (along with limp mode)?
Thanks for the tip
I did have 1 new front tyre fitted a few months back, and I wonder whether they did something (or didn't do something) to upset the balance?
It was done by one of those mobile tyre fitters, as I couldn't get my car to a regular tyre fitter...I wonder...Hmmmm
How could I check?
Could an unbalanced tyre cause both the ABS light and DSC message (along with limp mode)?
Thanks for the tip
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#171
#172
Ah, just found this excellent post...
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ect-faq-74146/
Could I ask a few quick questions first though please.
1. I actually disconnected the battery for a couple of hours and just re-connected it. I take it this wouldn't do all that the Hard Reset would do?
2. Can I just check...as far as I can see from the battery, there are only two cables connected to the battery, the positive and the negative...Can I just double check, I remove the cable connected to the battery negative terminal, and connect it to the battery positive terminal for 10 seconds?
Thanks...I will give it a try and see if it re-sets some electronics that might be causing my ABS/DSC issue
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...ect-faq-74146/
Could I ask a few quick questions first though please.
1. I actually disconnected the battery for a couple of hours and just re-connected it. I take it this wouldn't do all that the Hard Reset would do?
2. Can I just check...as far as I can see from the battery, there are only two cables connected to the battery, the positive and the negative...Can I just double check, I remove the cable connected to the battery negative terminal, and connect it to the battery positive terminal for 10 seconds?
Thanks...I will give it a try and see if it re-sets some electronics that might be causing my ABS/DSC issue
#174
Thanks for that.
Did the hard reset last night...everything reset, as expected, went through the hard reset/batter removal procedures as laid out by Jaguar, but unfortunately, my DSC light came back on again once I hit about 20mph, and went into "limp mode".
So, I now have to get the front 2 speed sensors removed and cleaned and see if that fixes the problem...
So annoying, as I can't even drive it anywhere (to a garage) to get them to look at it, as the limp mode means I can't really drive it anywhere on a main road.
Ah well, I'll persevere...
Thanks
Did the hard reset last night...everything reset, as expected, went through the hard reset/batter removal procedures as laid out by Jaguar, but unfortunately, my DSC light came back on again once I hit about 20mph, and went into "limp mode".
So, I now have to get the front 2 speed sensors removed and cleaned and see if that fixes the problem...
So annoying, as I can't even drive it anywhere (to a garage) to get them to look at it, as the limp mode means I can't really drive it anywhere on a main road.
Ah well, I'll persevere...
Thanks
#175
Removal of sensors
Just be careful removing bolts on sensors as I had a corroded one on the front that sheared when I tried to remove. It even ruined a new screw/bolt remover...very stubborn. I had to improvise by drilling new hole and replacing with a stainless steel self tapper to refit but if you can get behind bolt spray into hole with WD40 or something similar before you try to remove it might help loosen? Good luck!
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#178
Just be careful removing bolts on sensors as I had a corroded one on the front that sheared when I tried to remove. It even ruined a new screw/bolt remover...very stubborn. I had to improvise by drilling new hole and replacing with a stainless steel self tapper to refit but if you can get behind bolt spray into hole with WD40 or something similar before you try to remove it might help loosen? Good luck!
Also, an impact wrench is great for removing stuck bolts because the shock waves break them loose. A bolt which would shear off by simply twisting on it is more likely to come out in one piece with an impact wrench, especially if you soak it with penetrating oil first. If the head breaks off with an impact wrench, it would have broken off for sure with a regular wrench.
And... if you don't have an impact wrench, put a closed-end wrench over the head of the bolt (preferably a 6 point, not a 12 point) put some torque on the bolt, and then hit it with a hammer as you try to loosen it. Of course, soak it with penetrating oil first.
#180
Thanks for that.
Did the hard reset last night...everything reset, as expected, went through the hard reset/batter removal procedures as laid out by Jaguar, but unfortunately, my DSC light came back on again once I hit about 20mph, and went into "limp mode".
So, I now have to get the front 2 speed sensors removed and cleaned and see if that fixes the problem...
So annoying, as I can't even drive it anywhere (to a garage) to get them to look at it, as the limp mode means I can't really drive it anywhere on a main road.
Ah well, I'll persevere...
Thanks
Did the hard reset last night...everything reset, as expected, went through the hard reset/batter removal procedures as laid out by Jaguar, but unfortunately, my DSC light came back on again once I hit about 20mph, and went into "limp mode".
So, I now have to get the front 2 speed sensors removed and cleaned and see if that fixes the problem...
So annoying, as I can't even drive it anywhere (to a garage) to get them to look at it, as the limp mode means I can't really drive it anywhere on a main road.
Ah well, I'll persevere...
Thanks
Sounds like a throttle body issue to me. you may want to start there. If it turns out the problem there are a few online remans very cheap.