S type or xk8?
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S type or xk8?
The more I drive my 02 x type, the more I feel like it's going to be a nightmare one day, it hasn't given me any problems yet, but I'm nervous about how it will do after I hit 100k miles on it. So before I go to college I want to trade up. I've been looking at old XK8's and old S-types, both at about the 2002 and older range. I've heard good things about the reliability of both, especially the Xk8. I'm planning on working 12 hour days at my job all summer 6 days a week to come up with the money, but before I get too crazy I would like to hear the forum's opinion on which car is the better deal and will treat me better with repairs.
I can fix most problems provided I have tools to do so, so minimal things like Oxygen sensors aren't much of a problem. I'm looking at something like the x-types transfer case, problems of that magnitude.
I can fix most problems provided I have tools to do so, so minimal things like Oxygen sensors aren't much of a problem. I'm looking at something like the x-types transfer case, problems of that magnitude.
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You really need to just starting reading through this XK8 forum. That is your best tool (for you at the stage you are at) to "study" up on these 97-2006 Xk8's.
Most seem to agree that the 2003-2006 are the better cars, most of the bugs worked out of the cars.
The Xk8 can be a fine car but an unmaintained one is a Rabbit hole you don't want to deal with. So you want to buy one with documented maint history.
Pre 2003 have the timing chain issues been addressed (HUGE that you know this and that they are fixed).
Less miles on an XK8 DOES NOT EQUAL less issues. All these cars have bin around for many moons now. The front end suspension bushings are at the end of their life cycle.
97-98 model years have ECM issues that when it goes south the car starts throwing all types of **** (codes, warning lights) at you because the ECM computer stuff in it has went bad and you will need to have it fixed (this happened to me on my 1997 I owned)
The cooling system on these, many cars running around out there now are still on the orig parts and they WILL start leaking, specially if the car has been sitting around more then not then the next owner comes and starts driving it a lot, the leaks come, WP, hoses, which this car has MANY PITA hoses that are hard to get to and if you can't or not willing to do the work yourself will pay through the **** to have fixed for you.
I don't know your money situation, but if you are headed to college and you want own a 97-2006 xk8, huum, may not be a good car to buy right now and expect HONDA like reliability. If you are already afraid of the Xtype you have, then wait till after school to get another Jag. Sorry to be a dad about it. But school first, ha ha ha
The Xk8 car is a great car to own, you will get looks all day long when you drive it. It is great machine, but it is one that is like a hot looking chick, MANY of them are high maint. ha ha ha
Most seem to agree that the 2003-2006 are the better cars, most of the bugs worked out of the cars.
The Xk8 can be a fine car but an unmaintained one is a Rabbit hole you don't want to deal with. So you want to buy one with documented maint history.
Pre 2003 have the timing chain issues been addressed (HUGE that you know this and that they are fixed).
Less miles on an XK8 DOES NOT EQUAL less issues. All these cars have bin around for many moons now. The front end suspension bushings are at the end of their life cycle.
97-98 model years have ECM issues that when it goes south the car starts throwing all types of **** (codes, warning lights) at you because the ECM computer stuff in it has went bad and you will need to have it fixed (this happened to me on my 1997 I owned)
The cooling system on these, many cars running around out there now are still on the orig parts and they WILL start leaking, specially if the car has been sitting around more then not then the next owner comes and starts driving it a lot, the leaks come, WP, hoses, which this car has MANY PITA hoses that are hard to get to and if you can't or not willing to do the work yourself will pay through the **** to have fixed for you.
I don't know your money situation, but if you are headed to college and you want own a 97-2006 xk8, huum, may not be a good car to buy right now and expect HONDA like reliability. If you are already afraid of the Xtype you have, then wait till after school to get another Jag. Sorry to be a dad about it. But school first, ha ha ha
The Xk8 car is a great car to own, you will get looks all day long when you drive it. It is great machine, but it is one that is like a hot looking chick, MANY of them are high maint. ha ha ha
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Johnken (03-13-2016)
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You really need to just starting reading through this XK8 forum. That is your best tool (for you at the stage you are at) to "study" up on these 97-2006 Xk8's.
Most seem to agree that the 2003-2006 are the better cars, most of the bugs worked out of the cars.
The Xk8 can be a fine car but an unmaintained one is a Rabbit hole you don't want to deal with. So you want to buy one with documented maint history.
Pre 2003 have the timing chain issues been addressed (HUGE that you know this and that they are fixed).
Less miles on an XK8 DOES NOT EQUAL less issues. All these cars have bin around for many moons now. The front end suspension bushings are at the end of their life cycle.
97-98 model years have ECM issues that when it goes south the car starts throwing all types of **** (codes, warning lights) at you because the ECM computer stuff in it has went bad and you will need to have it fixed (this happened to me on my 1997 I owned)
The cooling system on these, many cars running around out there now are still on the orig parts and they WILL start leaking, specially if the car has been sitting around more then not then the next owner comes and starts driving it a lot, the leaks come, WP, hoses, which this car has MANY PITA hoses that are hard to get to and if you can't or not willing to do the work yourself will pay through the **** to have fixed for you.
I don't know your money situation, but if you are headed to college and you want own a 97-2006 xk8, huum, may not be a good car to buy right now and expect HONDA like reliability. If you are already afraid of the Xtype you have, then wait till after school to get another Jag. Sorry to be a dad about it. But school first, ha ha ha
The Xk8 car is a great car to own, you will get looks all day long when you drive it. It is great machine, but it is one that is like a hot looking chick, MANY of them are high maint. ha ha ha
Most seem to agree that the 2003-2006 are the better cars, most of the bugs worked out of the cars.
The Xk8 can be a fine car but an unmaintained one is a Rabbit hole you don't want to deal with. So you want to buy one with documented maint history.
Pre 2003 have the timing chain issues been addressed (HUGE that you know this and that they are fixed).
Less miles on an XK8 DOES NOT EQUAL less issues. All these cars have bin around for many moons now. The front end suspension bushings are at the end of their life cycle.
97-98 model years have ECM issues that when it goes south the car starts throwing all types of **** (codes, warning lights) at you because the ECM computer stuff in it has went bad and you will need to have it fixed (this happened to me on my 1997 I owned)
The cooling system on these, many cars running around out there now are still on the orig parts and they WILL start leaking, specially if the car has been sitting around more then not then the next owner comes and starts driving it a lot, the leaks come, WP, hoses, which this car has MANY PITA hoses that are hard to get to and if you can't or not willing to do the work yourself will pay through the **** to have fixed for you.
I don't know your money situation, but if you are headed to college and you want own a 97-2006 xk8, huum, may not be a good car to buy right now and expect HONDA like reliability. If you are already afraid of the Xtype you have, then wait till after school to get another Jag. Sorry to be a dad about it. But school first, ha ha ha
The Xk8 car is a great car to own, you will get looks all day long when you drive it. It is great machine, but it is one that is like a hot looking chick, MANY of them are high maint. ha ha ha
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You're a smart young man to consider getting rid of the X-Type soon. You'd be even smarter if you got rid of it right after reading this. Replacing a radiator, an oil pan gasket or front struts on an X-Type takes me on a fast path to a straight jacket in a padded room like a Veyron excels on the autobahn.
Seriously though, for your age and you absolutely must have a jag, I'd look at an 03' or newer S-Type V6. The 00'-02' have bad designed front ball joints and are a pain to replace. The 03'+ XK8's are nice but have their share of problems like you've done your homework on. Good luck!
Seriously though, for your age and you absolutely must have a jag, I'd look at an 03' or newer S-Type V6. The 00'-02' have bad designed front ball joints and are a pain to replace. The 03'+ XK8's are nice but have their share of problems like you've done your homework on. Good luck!
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Jags are very reliable, but they still cost twice as much to fix as mainstream cars when things do go wrong.
15+ year old cars are not noted to be in their prime.
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Johnken (03-13-2016)
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XK8's aren't something you can go down to autozone and buy a lot of parts for. They have great vendor support and lots of used parts are out there, but you can be down for a week for something simple, waiting for the part to show up.
The Key is controlled patience. Waiting for the right car and/or making the owner a reasonable offer, before someone snatches up a "deal".
#12
Just my 2 cents..
At the age of XK8's 10 to 20 years old and the complexity of the electronics and fickle electrical connectors these are best as very rewarding Hobby cars and not daily drivers. While many here will disagree and do use their's as daily drivers, some with in excess on 130K miles on them, maintenance is a must and can not be ignored.
A good 03 will run you anywhere from 10K to 14K, 04 to 06 cars at still getting above 15K in most cases if they are well maintained.
As long as you understand the car going in and can budget the money for maintenance you will have a blast in college driving an XK8, they are timeless and well respected by all ages and sexual preferences.
At the age of XK8's 10 to 20 years old and the complexity of the electronics and fickle electrical connectors these are best as very rewarding Hobby cars and not daily drivers. While many here will disagree and do use their's as daily drivers, some with in excess on 130K miles on them, maintenance is a must and can not be ignored.
A good 03 will run you anywhere from 10K to 14K, 04 to 06 cars at still getting above 15K in most cases if they are well maintained.
As long as you understand the car going in and can budget the money for maintenance you will have a blast in college driving an XK8, they are timeless and well respected by all ages and sexual preferences.
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My 84K mile '97 coupe was $4500, but needed about $1000 in maintenance, but now I have a GREAT car.
Read up on the issues/fixes and use these as bargaining chips when making a deal:
Torn lower ball joint boots, Take $200 off the price per torn boot (4 Max). Rear "clunk" on the test drive? Take another $300 off. Pop the caps off the Shock holes in the engine compartment... see Crumbled foam, that's another $200 off the price... Wheel bearing Howl that changes pitch when you change lanes? - $400 off... you get the idea.
Lastly, if you see any rust, walk away.
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For a Nice '03 I would say around $10K. $2500 less than this for a '97.
My 84K mile '97 coupe was $4500, but needed about $1000 in maintenance, but now I have a GREAT car.
Read up on the issues/fixes and use these as bargaining chips when making a deal:
Torn lower ball joint boots, Take $200 off the price per torn boot (4 Max). Rear "clunk" on the test drive? Take another $300 off. Pop the caps off the Shock holes in the engine compartment... see Crumbled foam, that's another $200 off the price... Wheel bearing Howl that changes pitch when you change lanes? - $400 off... you get the idea.
Lastly, if you see any rust, walk away.
My 84K mile '97 coupe was $4500, but needed about $1000 in maintenance, but now I have a GREAT car.
Read up on the issues/fixes and use these as bargaining chips when making a deal:
Torn lower ball joint boots, Take $200 off the price per torn boot (4 Max). Rear "clunk" on the test drive? Take another $300 off. Pop the caps off the Shock holes in the engine compartment... see Crumbled foam, that's another $200 off the price... Wheel bearing Howl that changes pitch when you change lanes? - $400 off... you get the idea.
Lastly, if you see any rust, walk away.
#15
I would 2nd a Miata purchase. You can get a 1st Gen Miata (NA) in very good shape from about 5k with good miles. They don't have most of the bad suspension issues, easy to work on, and ****ing fun as hell to drive. Get a 1993 or older because the motor is a 1.8, prior to that they were 1.6 and in that car you can feel the diff. Find a M Edition, with the LSD and a few other things that the normal ones don't have. In most every article I have read with the subject being cars to collect, the firs gens are on that list. 1990-1997.
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#16
I have an XK8 as a first and only car. Honestly, I don't recommend it as a first car. I have lucked out and have a reliable car which didn't cost me a dime when I got it. However, whenever something does go wrong, it costs me a pretty penny to fix whatever has gone wrong. The good looks, the smiles per gallon, the compliments, prestige, etc, are not worth the price of keeping these cars running with a college student's budget. It is possible to do it.
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I also second the Miata, for 10K or so you can get a 06 or newer which is called the NC3 in Miata speak. Great car and rock solid on maintainance. I just sold my 06 with 50K miles in like new condition for $9300!
Not as rewarding in whow factor as the XK8 but a heck of a lot of fun and maintenance free.
An XK8 will always require some attention on a regular basis.
Not as rewarding in whow factor as the XK8 but a heck of a lot of fun and maintenance free.
An XK8 will always require some attention on a regular basis.
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I also second the Miata, for 10K or so you can get a 06 or newer which is called the NC3 in Miata speak. Great car and rock solid on maintainance. I just sold my 06 with 50K miles in like new condition for $9300!
Not as rewarding in whow factor as the XK8 but a heck of a lot of fun and maintenance free.
An XK8 will always require some attention on a regular basis.
Not as rewarding in whow factor as the XK8 but a heck of a lot of fun and maintenance free.
An XK8 will always require some attention on a regular basis.
i'm not super into convertibles right now because when they're old they don't hold up well in the winter. they're great secondary cars but a DD convertible was a nightmare for me when i had my a80 cabrio.
i just really like grand tourers, the looks mixed with the feel is just my kind of thing. the miata to me isn't my kind of car