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Old 02-22-2011, 01:14 PM
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Default X350 Navigation & Premium audio: Wiring in an Aux-in

The Jaguar parts department will not sell me the Jaguar Aux-in (ACM) module. I have read it does not work correctly on the XJ8. I asked Dension if they sold the XJ8 Aux-in or if their Mercedes Aux-in would work. This is the response I got from Dension:

"Dear Customer,

Unfortunately Dension company can not give you the requested solution for Jaguar D2B. We did this product but only as an OEM. Along our contract with the Jaguar only they can sell this device. Please contact your locally Jaguar reseller for more details.

Best Regards
Dension Support Team"

Has anyone added an Aux-in to the premium audio entertainment system, with or without navigation? Where did you splice in?

On a related topic, I would like to collect wiring diagrams for the X350's entertainment system in one place. If you have links or can provide wiring diagrams, pin-outs, layout diagrams or any other advice, especially for the premium audio with navigation, I would greatly appreciate it!

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Download a copy of the JTIS. All electrical diagrams for your year and model are included:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=29800
 
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WhiteXKR, I downloaded the JTIS from the link at the FAQ in your post. I do not see electrical diagrams for MY 2004 on either disc. The first disc goes up to 2003. The second disc doesn't seem to do much but try to install adobe reader 5.

Where can I find MY 2004 electrical diagrams? Thanks!
 
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When you start up the program, you should see 10 pushbuttons on the top of the screen.

The 4th button from the left is an icon for an electrical diagram, press that and answer the prompt for your model and year.

The electrical diagram PDF should then open up.
 
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteXKR
When you start up the program, you should see 10 pushbuttons on the top of the screen.

The 4th button from the left is an icon for an electrical diagram, press that and answer the prompt for your model and year.

The electrical diagram PDF should then open up.
I still don't see where I can select / input MY 2004. It appears JTIS covers up to MY 2003, and does not cover models after that MY. Thanks!
 
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:38 AM
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The version I have goes through 2004. In any event, I can make a pdf copy for you. It comes up under 2004, but is labeled 2003.5.

I cannot attach it, it is being rejected probably because of its size. PM me your email address and I will send it to you.
 
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Old 02-23-2011, 05:39 PM
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Thanks for the offer. Last night I purchased this workshop manual on ebay. I will let you know if it doesn't have what I need.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JAGUA...ht_2257wt_1167

Know anything about the fiber-optic entertainment system? Is the changer connected to the head unit with fiber-optic cable?
 
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Originally Posted by sleepyastronaut
Know anything about the fiber-optic entertainment system? Is the changer connected to the head unit with fiber-optic cable?
I'm afraid I am not familiar with the XJ system. Posting in the XJ8 group is your best bet....it ususally gets more traffic than this group.

I tried the upload again and it worked this time...so the schematic document is attached if you need it.
 
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Thank you for the pdf!

Originally Posted by WhiteXKR
I'm afraid I am not familiar with the XJ system
The X350 employs a fiber-optic bus, called D2B, for communication among multimedia devices. I know Mercedes took this protocol and ran with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesti...s_(automotive)

I don't know if any other Jags employ D2B.

The local dealer parts guy told me yesterday that the Audio Connectivity Module (iPod/aux-in) for the X350 has been deleted from the catalog and he cannot order it for me. He sells an ACM for the XK (Part # C2P16491) and an ACM for the S-Type (Part # C2C40513). The S-Type ACM costs almost twice what the one for the XK costs.

I'm guessing the extra cost for the S-Type ACM is because it speaks D2B, but I don't know.
 

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X-Type and 2004+ S-Type also use D2B bus.
 
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Originally Posted by sleepyastronaut

The X350 employs a fiber-optic bus, called D2B, for communication among multimedia devices. See figure 20.4 (Multiplex Systems) on the document attached above. I know Mercedes took this protocol and ran with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_Digital_Bus_(automotive)

I don't know if any other Jags employ D2B.

The local dealer parts guy told me yesterday that the Audio Connectivity Module (iPod/aux-in) for the X350 has been deleted from the catalog and he cannot order it for me. He sells an ACM for the XK (Part # C2P16491) and an ACM for the S-Type (Part # C2C40513). The S-Type ACM costs almost twice what the one for the XK costs.

I'm guessing the extra cost for the S-Type ACM is because it speaks D2B, but I don't know.
You my friend, seem to be a guy on a mission to get your XJ in top shape and tricked out exactly to your liking. I like that.

Yes the Audio Connectivity Module accessory was withdrawn for use in the XJ; as best I can tell, there was some kind of software glitch that prevented reliable operation with the exploding i-Pod market and all the changing features at the time. The few I installed seemed to function OK though. Non i-Pod mp3 seemed to work OK, Too. The install package was the same for the S-Type as the XJ, so tell the guy you have an S-Type.

Here is all the install information, you seem like one who could tackle the installation if you had a mind to. You be the judge.

That ought to keep you busy!

Good luck!
 
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Steve, what do you mean by "seemed to function OK"? From the literature you posted, the ACM is a bit quirky. Did the ACMs you installed in XJs act more quirky than normal?
 
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No, not really. It sort of comes down to the fact there are so many audio devices, so little in the way of standardization, and so many various functions. They made an attempt to really nicely interface with the first i-Pod and transfer the Leaper to the i-Pod screen etc. The trouble is, they [the devices] change and evolve so fast that while it's a neat idea, the practicality just isn't there. When the moneyed crowd get the latest and greatest, they "out technology" the car, and they get pissed.
In practice, I've seen the i-Pod screen lock up once in a while, needing a reconnect, and some delays switching from one album to another, minor stuff. On the whole people who have them seem to take it all in stride. Some generic mp3 players seem to play across the USB pretty well.

At any rate, I question the wisdom of removing it for the XJ entirely, but you know how the manufacturers do when they have to consider JD Power. JD Power, absolutely the worst thing that ever hit the car business.

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Default C2C40513 - works in a 2003 XRK??

Well i just purchsed a 2003 XKR and joined this forum....love the car and love the forum...tons of great posts I have been reading thru like this one!

I want to get an IPOD setup in my 2003 XKR.
I call the dealer parts department and they stated that the C2C40513 is the part I need but when I read the instructions it doesnt specift an XKR or a 2003. Perhaps I have the wrong instructions or the wrong kit?

Can someone verify??

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Originally Posted by deadboy1977
Well i just purchsed a 2003 XKR and joined this forum....love the car and love the forum...tons of great posts I have been reading thru like this one!

I want to get an IPOD setup in my 2003 XKR.
I call the dealer parts department and they stated that the C2C40513 is the part I need but when I read the instructions it doesnt specift an XKR or a 2003. Perhaps I have the wrong instructions or the wrong kit?

Can someone verify??

Mike
Unfortunately the audio connectivity module is not compatible with the earlier XK8 or XKR. They even pulled it from use in the XJ. See the attached bulletins.

You will probably have to try and find something aftermarket for your car.

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Your best bet for easy installation is a good wired FM modulator.

Your easiest high quality direct wire approach is an PIE ALP/AI-AUX adapter plugged between the nav. unit and the power amp. Feed the adapter with a PAC LD-10 Preamp. It will override the radio when the Ipod plays.
 
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Huh, then why did the dealer state that he could install the C2C40513 kit in my car at a cost of $1200 parts and $300 labor? I mean this is a total rip I reaalize because I can buy the kit for $420 myself! Not sure how difficult it is to put in tho????
 
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Everything I read says this is a NO GO? Can you help with the install?

would this install work - http://www.discountcarstereo.com/pdf/alpai-aux.pdf

Purchase only if the Alpine Model number begins with "CDA-", "TDA-", "DVA-", "IVA-", "3DA".*Not* compatible with any Factory (OEM) Radio.

1. The ALP/AI-AUX is NOT COMPATIBLE (will not work/fit) Alpine M-BUS Radios (CDM-, TDM, etc)
2. If your vehicle (Chrysler, BMW, Honda, Mercedes, Jaguar, Volvo etc) has an Alpine OEM (factory) CD Changer, this part is *NOT* compatible. It is compatible with Alpine aftermarket products but not in OEM applications.

 
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Old 04-22-2011, 07:09 AM
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Huh, then why did the dealer state that he could install the C2C40513 kit in my car at a cost of $1200 parts and $300 labor? I mean this is a total rip I reaalize because I can buy the kit for $420 myself! Not sure how difficult it is to put in tho????
Unless your dealer was talking about changing out a bunch of other equipment, he was mistaken, and probably confusing it with an X-type or an XJ.
 
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Originally Posted by deadboy1977
Everything I read says this is a NO GO? Can you help with the install?

would this install work - http://www.discountcarstereo.com/pdf/alpai-aux.pdf

Purchase only if the Alpine Model number begins with "CDA-", "TDA-", "DVA-", "IVA-", "3DA".*Not* compatible with any Factory (OEM) Radio.

1. The ALP/AI-AUX is NOT COMPATIBLE (will not work/fit) Alpine M-BUS Radios (CDM-, TDM, etc)
2. If your vehicle (Chrysler, BMW, Honda, Mercedes, Jaguar, Volvo etc) has an Alpine OEM (factory) CD Changer, this part is *NOT* compatible. It is compatible with Alpine aftermarket products but not in OEM applications.
On your car it will likely only function between the nav unit and the amp, and mute the radio and not the CD changer...it is not compatible when used to mute the CD changer as shown in the install diagram.

If you are not far from Arlington, VA, I can give you a hand some time. PM me.
 


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