Thought Id start a Topic on the Pros and cons of a Diesel and Petrol

Reasons why I went for the Diesel
First off , Petrol Prices in the UK at the moment are just crazy at The moment
Secondly The Torque in the Diesel is just brilliant when I go to 2500 Rev the Turbo kicks in and it puts me in my Seat its a great feeling knowing that you can Beat most cars off the lights

My Third Reason is if you drive the car sensible I get about 50 MPG witch is pretty amazing

I would like to hear your Views on Diesel engines and Tell me what would you choose ?

cheers

Sean

 

Hi Sean,
I have to say it would always be diesel for me, UNLESS In this economic climate I somehow become independtly wealthy.....lol

I've been running diesels for 20 years + now from when I was heavily involved in sales and must have had at least a dozen or so in that time.

The diesels have come such a long way, you now even see them involved in motorsport.
The engine is tough and can take a lot of punishment and 200K miles is easily and regularly achieveable, with some onwards of 400k - 500k and more on the clock.
They can very easily and fairly cheaply be remapped offering great gains in both power and economy. This means more bhp and more importantly more torque when needed, but when driven "normally" the mpg can give 10% - 15% gains on economy.

The fastest car I've driven was a Jaguar XKR 5.0 Supercharged V8 with 500 horses and was a beautiful / stunning and very quick car to drive with a gorgeous exhaust note, capable of 174mph and a 0-60 of around 4.2 secs.

The second fastest was a BMW 335 twin turb DIESEL which was rocket like and I had it showing 161 on the speedo.

With fuel the way it is at present and more than likely it's going to increase in price and not decrease, diesel is the choice for me...........Once I win the lottery I'll have my 4.2 or 5.0 V8 petrol, but until then I'll be an oil burner................

 

THX Guys ,for revieving this thread, been a little quiet!

OK right now i got two diesel vehicles, my DD is an old Isuzu-Opel 1982, 1.8l OHC,turbo 4cyl.

almost 200,000 miles runs perfect, old tech, but gets around 40-45mpg US gallon.

that run on used cooking oils, i get for free, so yearly money saved is substantial, i'm retired on fixed income, but i dont feel comfortable with inflation of future!

somewhat slow, but oh well!

other diesel is a GMC suburban 8 passenger, heavy but dependable,i use it for a rollin work truck, around 20-22 mpg US.

been loving diesels since 1972, when made a trip in a boat,from Canada to Bahama islands, two Detroit marine units, 7 yrs never a problem, except services.

course new tech has been made possible because of the electronics, and Piezo injectors, seems that it completly changed diesels.

i'm hoping that some breakthru in Biofuels will become realistic, and hope the BIG MAN dont make rules that cant be lived with, seems they would like us to live like Europe!

THX RON

 

I appreciate the diesels, but I prefer gasoline engines. They are not as torquey or fuel efficient as their diesel counterparts, but forgive me if I want the car to have to sound like it's working hard when I floor it. I also think the exhaust notes of diesel cars leave a lot to be desired.

Then again, for a commuter car, it would be just dandy. On a pickup truck, too. But if I want a high performance sports car or luxury sedan, I want to hear the roar of my engine!

 

amc, i like the quote by Sir William Lyons, some cars do seem as tho they have a personality and charisma.

shame you dont like diesels, for exhaust sounds i have two cars,that sound wonderful, but completly different.

pix in my garage, a V12 Jag, with 5" side pipe.
and the Buick with a big V8, DEEEP V8 rumble.

i like them both, and most other people also!

mazda rotary, HMM not so nice!

OK enough of that stuff.

if i could get one,my choice would be a 2013 XF 2.2D JAGUAR, YUP, Kool.
but they wont sell them in USA(go figure)!

 

I did not chose my diesel, it chose me! It just so happened it was the engine in the beautiful car I saw on the forecourt.

The mileage we do means any saving in mpg is wiped out by the extra cost of diesel over petrol. But the sound of the engine, its smoothness and performance means instead of being a confirmed petrol head, I am now more favourable towards diesels.

 

How about a remap Delta?
Then you'd be leaving a lot of those petrol heads behind you in a cloud of smoke and or getting better mpg when driven normally.

Rover Ron does tuning boxes as well that are tried n tested on the X Type and Ford Mondeo engines........proven to give another 20 -30 bhp + fuel economy too

 

Fascinating! I had NO idea there was such an animal as a diesel Jag. I currently own a diesel but it is in my 1990 Ford F250. About 180k on the clock but it still gets 17 mpg average, not bad for a 6600# 4x4 truck. The sad part is that diesel now costs more that premium gas (petrol) in the Pacific North West.

Marty......................

 

we will soon have more diesel cars, Mazda Skyactive-D, show a lot of potential, ther are SUVs like BMW X5-D, course Mercedes benz,.

maybe GM suburban with a diesel will becoming,and with a reliable engine!! GMs working with Fiat & VM motori on an engine

 

Diesels abound over here Marty in all marques.
Coming soon to a dealership near you I'd guess mate.......

 

also GMs working with PSA- Citreon on a Diesel engine for upcoming cars!

 

My A6 is just coming up for 100k in 6 years with few issues.......she's well looked after and no reason she shouldn't go on to 200k, 300k or more....

 

Yes your question is very nice. you can choose the Diesel over a petrol because Diesel engine is easy to maintain and repair and it is also easy to care.
thanks!

 

Sons just got a new to him (56 plate ) 6 year old X type 2.0d Sport, see post below....

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...premium-96977/

Has 130 bhp, plenty of torque and pulls like a train in ALL gears, even in 5th.....looking at around 550 miles for his first fun tank, not bad!!

With lower road tax, more mpg, bigger more powerful car than a 1.4 Vauxhall Astra, its a no brainer.....lol

 

tell your son congrats Jim!

while I dont think one choice is better then the other, each has its pros and cons, I certainly wish we had diesel variants here in the US. I would love a Diesel S-Type or proper X350 XJ with diesel

 

Thanks I'll pass it on.

Recently covred 795.5 miles in my A6 on one tank of fuel....she can still get down the motorway with the best of them too...all good.

To be honest and as said previously, don't think I'll be going back to petrol anytime soon ( especially at the prices over here ) unless I win a significant amount of money

 

Well, I am a new convert. Have been watching the development of diesels for more than 20 years and they always had an "agricultural" feel and sound to them. Even the top euro 520d sounds very ordinary despite the price tag.

Once I drove the sweet sounding V6 twin turbo 3.0 litre diesel in an XF package with all the "S" and "R" bits (2011) I was hooked.

Both cars in the garage will be diesel until hybrids develop the endurance and ***** that my 600 mm of torque dishes up every day.
And the next step will be to 700 mm plus for an outlay of 250 euro

Economy has improved over petrol engine of similar torque but the look of the XF package won my heart from the first test drive. 😊

 

I know my response is old but I have to say I love my 2008 XF 2,7L diesel. I've had it since news and for me whilst I appreciate some don't regard any diesel Jaguar as being in the same league as a diesel I've had the opportunity to take it to
central Australia and take advantage of a section of highway about 500km long that permitted unlimited speed. I took the diesel up to 220km/hr but cruised for extensive distances at around 180km/hr. Jaguars are meant to be beautiful fast cars and my diesel XF is a beautiful fast car. I was impressed as everyone says about the torque the diesel delivers and during tht drive the car demonstrated it had plenty of power in reserve to continue to accelerate and climg long grades effortlessly.

GeeVeeXF