Hey folks,

I am almost ready to pull the trigger on a new F-Type V6S AWD Convertible but was just informed about an amazing deal on a used 2010 911 Turbo Coupe with some great mods (Full Vorsteiner VRT II Kit, KW V3 w/ Integrated HLS Front Lift, Stoptech Trophy Big Brakes, Center Lock GMG Wheels, Shark Werks Turbo Exhaust, EVOMS 997TT Tune w/ TUNEit OBD Flashing Kit) along with all the normal Porsche performance tech (including PTV). Its also got the fixed rear spoiler and carbon fiber aero parts.

Price wise we're looking at roughly the same amount, in fact the 911 would be less expensive, so now I'm conflicted. I really like both vehicles, and the 911 seems like a great opportunity, but it isn't a new vehicle either so I may be inheriting someone else's problems. I also wanted a drop-top which the 911 is obviously not.

I know this is the Jaguar forum, but there are a lot of folks who drive Porsche as well (or formerly did so) and I'm curious for opinions.

This would be my new DD once my BMW lease expires at the end of summer.

Thoughts, opinions?

Thanks!

 

Sounds like a Frankenporsche that may no longer handle as well as OEM equipped and probably has been abused. I'd pass.

 

I agree. I would think that with that many mods, it was probably driven hard and / or tracked frequently.

 

This sounds like it may have been somebody's track car, so I'd want a lot more details on the history of the car before I'd buy something like that.

As a former 911 owner (I just traded my 2006 Carerra 4 on a 2015 F-Type R) I know a lot of folks mod their 911, and provided the work was done right and the car was maintained well, there may be no problems. The 911 is a solid car, even when tracked.

But, with the number and type of mods done to the 911 you described, I think a lot of due diligence is needed. No way I'd buy any car that heavily modded without it gone over by a Porsche mechanic, and not the guy at the place selling it (assuming it's at a dealership). And with those kinds of mods, I'd also probably try to have it looked at by folks who specialize in those kinds of mods.

For example, if it were me, and the car were located in Northern California, I'd probably take it to Sharkwerks and see if I could pay them some $$$ to do an inspection on it and give me their opinion, especially since it's a Turbo.

Good luck with the investigation!

 

First, get a rev report on the Porsche before going too far down that path. On a 997, you'll get you'll get the full range of results. Check for over-rev's and whether the clock make sense (ie, not tampered with). If it's at a dealer, they should have pulled one themselves. If they're good to work with, it will be free. At most, maybe $10. If you get past that hurdle, you can get a full PPI. My son has a Turbo and it's a great car - probably a bit more of a driver's car than the Jag, but just not as much fun. (My view, anyway.)

 

Yeah this is a track car... not primarily, it was used as a DD most of the time, but the owner is someone who tracks the car on the weekends. From what I'm told the car is a monster on the track. He is only selling the car because he just bought a new 991 GT3 and doesn't need two. It has been maintained meticulously and all the work was done professionally though.

If this were a CPO car that was more stock I think I would be less concerned, but based on feedback I've received so far I think passing is probably the best option, though I've always wanted to get a 911 Turbo.

Thanks for the feedback!

 

You will very quickly make up the cost difference in just routine maintenance costs on the Porsche. Anything other than routine repairs will blow your budget way past the F-Type acquisition cost.

Even though recent 911s have been very reliable, this one has been heavily tweaked and driven hard, which may have some reliability consequences. You may not be able to count on it as a daily-driver.

 

I would recommend going with the F-Type. The Porsche is out of warranty and you will be potentially looking at some high dollar repairs. As a daily driver the F-Type would be a much better car IMHO.

 

The rear suspension on the new F type is tail happy. F types need to have some better suspension tuning IMHO. I won't buy another Jag coupe till they get their act together.

Many track cars are maintained at a MUCH higher level than some half a$$ed dealer service. I hate Porsches but for this money its a no brainer. A Turbo is one of the ULTIMATE cars , PERIOD>

 

The AWDs aren't nearly as tail happy. You should try one of those out.

 

Agreed. That is why I'm looking at the V6S AWD or perhaps an V8R in the F-Type line.

 

You should have the best of both worlds, like me. I'm fortunate to have both. If I had to get rid of one though it would be the Jag. There is nothing like a 911 Turbo for pure driving pleasure.

Walt

 

The V6 is beautifully balanced and a great choice. Perhaps the connoisseurs choice.
The V8 is a monster and takes more work but some of us like a big dog to run around with.

 

If you've driven both cars extensively your choice should present itself.

 

IMO i would be learning more towards the porsche....ONLY if the PPI checks out clean.

I would also post about the car on the porsche forums and 6speedonline forums. who knows...you may run across someone who knows about the car and can give you a little history.

 

I would take a used 991 turbo over an F-Type but not a 997. The 997 feel a bit dated to me. Bear in mind the 997 was only a partial redesign of the 996.