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Old 10-17-2016, 02:55 PM
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Has anyone quantified the loss of range on radar detector? Has anyone been successful in mounting one in the "hole" by the mirror. I have an escort 360 and would love successful mounting suggestions to take advantage of the referenced 'window' in the coating.
i lost 100% use of my radar detector from the front windshield, it can pick up signals from the back. but the front is useless
 
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Im in SHOCK, just set up the leasing terms for my 2017 that was sitting on the lot unsold and got a a nice deal, and there is NO WAY to install a Escort 360 that works!!! Because JAG DIDN'T THINK about this in their engineering in their top sports car!?!

No solution short of a $3000 exterior mounted unit??

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Old 06-05-2017, 06:20 PM
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I talked about this in another thread but my Magnum STI works OK when mounted in the "hole" in the windshield. For every encounter I have had with the Magnum, I have gotten enough warning for a save.



My recommendation is to sell the Max360 and buy the Uniden R3 which is much smaller, cheaper and more sensitive. You could also get a used Redline or Magnum but note that if you run K band they have crappy filtering and will be noisy.
 
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:47 PM
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Thanks, any solutions desired,

I just did a search and call, finding a good deal on a "new" 2016 Black on Black R here in the south. Not my color of choice and JP Morgan just shut down LEASES on 2016's, so its purchase only - Ugg.

Finding a solution to this (incredibly stupid) windshield engineering issue is critical
 
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:13 PM
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I agree that the windshield sucks from a radar detector point of view. Do you know if they use Laser in your area? If so, then selling the Max360 and going with an integrated Laser Jammer/Radar detector solution would be the way to go. For $3K you should be able to get a remote NetRadar Jammer and Radar detector system installed.


$3K is a lot of money though and you do have to ask yourself if it worth it. Using rabbits, Waze, memorizing local speed traps and general knowledge can go a long way to prevent getting tickets. And if you do get tickets, $3k can go a long way for the insurance costs or hiring a lawyer.
 
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:46 PM
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Here in the mid-Atlantic, you're just asking for trouble with a radar detector mounted in the windshield. I have only ever installed remotes when I've had detectors.
 
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:08 PM
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In Canada (as I believe in UK) radar detectors are illegal. Personally, I am looking forward to getting UV-reflecting windshield. Will save a lot of wear and fade on the dash in the long run.
 
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Leasing for 3 years, the cars covered, the idea of driving a 550 HP car of this capability with no radar detection whatsoever ever....guess I will save some gas and plan accordingly.

This was COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE; they simply had to think it through a bit and leave a large enough cut out for average drivers needs.

I like to see wrongs fixed - somehow 2017 owners need to get the word back to Jaguar corporate, its easily fixed.
 
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Originally Posted by carzaddict
i lost 100% use of my radar detector from the front windshield, it can pick up signals from the back. but the front is useless
My "radar detector" works great, it's called Waze and works better than any radar detector I've ever used in the past . It is a pain with the EZ-Pass though.
 
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Old 06-07-2017, 07:37 PM
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My "radar detector" works great, it's called Waze and works better than any radar detector I've ever used in the past . It is a pain with the EZ-Pass though.
The ez pass should work perfectly when placed in the spot that no radar detectors can fit into
 
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I thought I would update this thread with my experiences running the Beltronics Mangum STI in a 2017 F Type. Thus far I have one save where the CHP was pulled over on the side of the highway running his radar. I got about a mile detection in easy, straight terrain.


On the other hand, on windings roads I have not had the same luck. I had a CHP encounter that was almost line of sight. He was around the corner driving in the opposite direction and we were both doing 70+. The detection was that bad that it made me wonder if he only was running his rear radar but fortunately there was center divider that prevented him from making U - turn. This is a tough scenario for even the best detectors although I have gotten better detections in similar scenarios when I was in a car with a regular windshield.


As a plus, where I live it gets really hot in the summer and the athermic windshield does make a big difference in 100+ weather.
 
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Originally Posted by speedski
I agree that the windshield sucks from a radar detector point of view. Do you know if they use Laser in your area? If so, then selling the Max360 and going with an integrated Laser Jammer/Radar detector solution would be the way to go. For $3K you should be able to get a remote NetRadar Jammer and Radar detector system installed.


$3K is a lot of money though and you do have to ask yourself if it worth it. Using rabbits, Waze, memorizing local speed traps and general knowledge can go a long way to prevent getting tickets. And if you do get tickets, $3k can go a long way for the insurance costs or hiring a lawyer.
I agree with your approach, Waze in my experience has been far more helpful than the radar, which I returned to the manufacturer. What though is 'rabbits'?
 

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Rabbit == runner == someone you can follow at a safe distance, so they get the ticket, not you.
 
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So is it fair to say that even if you were able to fit a smaller radar detector, think Beltronics Magnum STI or Radenso, that even with the cut out they would still experience significant interference? I'm just trying to weigh my options. Here in NC the insurance premiums you have to pay to the state for even a few points are absolutely outrageous. Better safe than sorry.



Originally Posted by speedski
I thought I would update this thread with my experiences running the Beltronics Mangum STI in a 2017 F Type. Thus far I have one save where the CHP was pulled over on the side of the highway running his radar. I got about a mile detection in easy, straight terrain.


On the other hand, on windings roads I have not had the same luck. I had a CHP encounter that was almost line of sight. He was around the corner driving in the opposite direction and we were both doing 70+. The detection was that bad that it made me wonder if he only was running his rear radar but fortunately there was center divider that prevented him from making U - turn. This is a tough scenario for even the best detectors although I have gotten better detections in similar scenarios when I was in a car with a regular windshield.


As a plus, where I live it gets really hot in the summer and the athermic windshield does make a big difference in 100+ weather.
 
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Old 10-15-2017, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DJS
Rabbit == runner == someone you can follow at a safe distance, so they get the ticket, not you.
I like rabbit but prefer lobster. Working off of your equation then looks like this:

Lobster == Runner == someone you can follow so that (they make sure that) no one gets a ticket!

Am I wrong?
 

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Originally Posted by RickyJay52
I like rabbit but prefer lobster. Working off of your equation then looks like this:

Lobster == Runner == someone you can follow so that no one gets a ticket!

Am I wrong?
Can't catch all twelve of us. I kept waiting for Operation Broken Arrow.
 
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Old 10-15-2017, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nati
Can't catch all twelve of us. I kept waiting for Operation Broken Arrow.
Au contraire mon ami. Far be it for me to argue with the good doctor but tell that to the "Sterling 11." (It could also have been 12...it's so long ago.) What is or rather was the Sterling 11 I hear you saying? (with apologies to the OP.)

I believe it was the first time all NSX owners were getting together somewhere in Colorado - I flew out to CA to drive an Acura-sponsored (provided) NSX - and apparently a group of 11 NSX's traveling in convoy (must have ticked someone if not many other drivers off) encountered a road block consisting of various types of LEO. After all got ticketed they went into (or already were in) Sterling, CO to find an attorney to represent them. Which they did. I forget the end result but I seem to recall hefty fines across the board plus attorney fees.

I kid you not.

So count yourself lucky Nati that you were riding on the coattails of the devil. And, as we all know, the devil doesn't get tickets*.

*Not entirely true, as I have. Even then I had, let's just say, a solution.
 

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For the Uniden R3, did you need do fab a custom mount to fit in the ‘hole’ or dad the factory mount work for you?
 
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Originally Posted by mcalc55
So is it fair to say that even if you were able to fit a smaller radar detector, think Beltronics Magnum STI or Radenso, that even with the cut out they would still experience significant interference? I'm just trying to weigh my options. Here in NC the insurance premiums you have to pay to the state for even a few points are absolutely outrageous. Better safe than sorry.
It all depends on how fast you drive, the terrain and what techiques LEO use for speed enforcement. A good radar detector in the cutout is plenty for constant on in easy terrain. In my limited experience off axis suffers quite a bit so if you are concerned about tough terrain (hills and curves) then I would say the remote mount.

Since the fines are high, it looks like you will want a remote mount possibility with laser, if they use laser in your area. I would also recommend running Waze also. Otherwise, you will have to be very careful and do smart speeding.
 
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If you need to replace a 2015 windshield, are they going to give you a windshield with the filtering, thereby screwing up your radar detector?
 


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