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Old May 7, 2019 | 06:22 PM
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Does anyone know how to recharge the AC unit? It works fine but it just doesn't blow cold. Is it something you can fix on your own or do you have to take it to the dealer. If not, where do you get the gas?
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 08:53 PM
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Unless you have the high & low pressure gauges and know how to use them, take it to an A/C shop (dealer, if your car is covered under warranty).
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 09:23 PM
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AC system is highly pressurized (under normal circumstances) and careless handling can cause serious injury. Servicing it requires special tools and access to refrigerant that in most places you can't buy without license.
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Carbuff2
Unless you have the high & low pressure gauges and know how to use them, take it to an A/C shop (dealer, if your car is covered under warranty).
+1. It’s not like the old days when you could just go buy a can of Freon at the car parts shop and blow it in there while watching bubbles disappear in a site glass.
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 09:25 PM
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+1. It’s not like the old days when you could just go buy a can of Freon at the car parts shop and blow it in there while watching bubbles disappear in a site glass.
There ever was such time? No wonder weather is getting weird.
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 09:30 PM
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There ever was such time? No wonder weather is getting weird.
Yes, there is indeed a reason why the ozone layer is repairing itself.
 
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Old May 7, 2019 | 11:17 PM
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I would take it to a dealer and see what they say. It could be the direct pressure sensing valve.
TSB: https://static.oemdtc.com/TSB/JTB00380NAS2.pdf
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 01:24 AM
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It’s not like the old days when you could just go buy a can of Freon at the car parts shop and blow it in there while watching bubbles disappear in a site glass.
I dont understand.
Its easier now for me and everyone can buy it because its ozone friendly. They sell cans everywhere even in grocery stores, with gauges already on them. Just $5 a can.
What am I missing? (Never had to charge the Jaguar)
But the chevy needs it once a year. Is the jag different.
In fact I was just about to borrow the ac vacuum pump from auto store so that I could replace the leaking line.
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
But the chevy needs it once a year. Is the jag different?
Just that legendary British engineering!
 
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Old May 8, 2019 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
I dont understand.
Its easier now for me and everyone can buy it because its ozone friendly. They sell cans everywhere even in grocery stores, with gauges already on them. Just $5 a can.
What am I missing?
Maybe nothing. I’ve just not seen any such thing at the auto parts stores here.
 
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Old May 9, 2019 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
I’ve just not seen any such thing at the auto parts stores here.
Wow, twilight zone, next time I am in a grocery store I will take a picture.
I just went to Target.com and they were all to eager to sell me some and every store had it in stock, set my location as MD and it said not so fast.
 
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Old May 9, 2019 | 11:08 AM
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Are you under warranty? Seal leaks are quite common even from the factory.

I believe F-types are using 1234yf otherwise known as HFO in some other countries. If you're planning to recharge A/C you need your pressure spec, the right fitting (it's SAE controlled), and a set of gauges for the inline fill. Given parts and labor, you will want to find the leak before really refilling otherwise you just bought yourself one expensive cool day.
 
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Old May 9, 2019 | 11:16 AM
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If you have a 1234 system break out the $$$$. Our cost is $100# and a new specialised machine that samples freon and if any contamination is found it wont run ac service on car. If you try to do your own for some reason and contaminate the system.... Its a expensive car and trying to shade tree things now days is not like it used to be. This is 1 area just to let somone with the right equipment deal with it imo.
 
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Old May 9, 2019 | 11:24 AM
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Agree. I did manufacturing conversions for the big 3, and the cost per vehicle for yf are astronomical, doubly so for any warranty claims from a total cost of ownership perspective.
Also the video with Daimler yf explosions doesn't help anyone feel safer, even though it's quite a safe application.
 
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Old May 10, 2019 | 01:38 PM
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Regarding the ac refrigerant used, it's worth checking the label.

Some websites claim that many models after 2013 have R1234YF yet my 2016 F type (manufactured in 2015)

Is fitted with R134a


 
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Old May 10, 2019 | 09:34 PM
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I don't know if this is true or urban legend, but I heard of hicks recharging home ACs with propane instead of refrigerants and it mostly working.

With this in mind, Q&C are you sure you are seeing R134 refrigerant for sale, and not something else like refrigerant dye kits?
 
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Old May 10, 2019 | 09:58 PM
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You can indeed purchase R134a, even in those large blue tanks. It is the residential, commercial, and industrial refrigerants that you need EPA certification for.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/303117031380
 
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Old May 11, 2019 | 09:01 AM
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Take a bow guys, you are as in-touch as Marie Antoinette was.

I cant believe I had to take this pic for you guys. Its beneath me to go to supermarkets.

 
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Old May 11, 2019 | 10:09 AM
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Just checked it out. 134a is indeed available in the auto parts store locally. How cool is that?
 
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Old May 11, 2019 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SinF
I don't know if this is true or urban legend, but I heard of hicks recharging home ACs with propane instead of refrigerants and it mostly working.
Not just home systems....I thought that was a common practice, recharging old R12 systems, once they stopped selling it. Some of the replacement gas blends had a large component of propane, too.

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Can't wait to see a workaround for R134a if they ever stop selling THAT. I thought it was 'going away' eventually?
 

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