Bought 2015 F Type R and guess what
I could care less about the engine replacement or mechanical repairs that have been fixed. My concern is the mismatched paint. Was it in an accident? How did they make that mistake? And how much will it cost to fix? You just paid 60-70k on a car, and its clearly not what you expected; you should get your moneys worth.
Exactly.
I got a quote from an authorized Jag repair shop - $2,000.
I share that opinion as well.
Not many buyer will bother with a car that has that kind of history.
That's a great reply.
I love my M but I think I'm done.
I had an E46 that I never should have sold.
The E92 is just ok.
I dont like the M4 at all.
Did the CarFax report not show any of these details? Get their admission in WRITING ASAP & get your money back! If they left you a Voice Mail make certain you also get an eMail acknowledging that this is a non-disclosure issue on their side.
It sounds like you took a lot of time to find one with the "right" options. What are the odds that they will be able to find one with what you are seeking? I know they may have more eyes on the ground and more avenues to what's out there but how could you trust them after they tried to hide these details?
It sounds like you took a lot of time to find one with the "right" options. What are the odds that they will be able to find one with what you are seeking? I know they may have more eyes on the ground and more avenues to what's out there but how could you trust them after they tried to hide these details?
Carfax did not show any of the work. I understand that repair shops/dealers have no obligation to report repairs to them so it's not of much value.
I'm going with the crowd (accept the offer to buy back or replace) because I share these concerns. Things break, things get fixed, and if done properly, it's as good as new. Bodywork with what appears to be the wrong paint? That's just shoddy, and you don't want any part of that.
I've been debating that endlessly.
From what I have learned it's less than a 1% chance of engine failure so I figured it wouldn't happen to me again with the next car.
Car had 18,000 when the engine was replaced. 23,000 now.
I think you're right.
Dealer has provided another car with 10,000 fewer miles, another year of warranty, red/black interior which is what I originally wanted, same color with same options and although it does not have black wheels or tinted glass they agreed to powder coat the wheels gloss black. They're paying for shipping out here.
While I'm a little weary of their character, they seem to be making good on what appears to be due to a lazy salesman who told me he verified the history, when in fact he did not. I have to be relentless on demanding evidence of anything these people tell me. Lesson learned.
I'm going with the crowd (accept the offer to buy back or replace) because I share these concerns. Things break, things get fixed, and if done properly, it's as good as new. Bodywork with what appears to be the wrong paint? That's just shoddy, and you don't want any part of that.
If I had to make a snap decision, I'd take my 75K mile engine over your (a generic "you") 5K mile engine because I know me, but not you. In the realm of use/misuse/abuse/hard use/neglect, I know exactly where I stand.
Hard to know exactly.
I was told this is not the way they do business and this kind of thing is unacceptable.
I disagree with the premise, although it does include a disclaimer. A new engine or an old one that could fail at any time? The new engine could fail at any time also. There's not enough information here. I'd rather have a well-cared for 18K mile engine than a 5K mile engine that's been flogged.
If I had to make a snap decision, I'd take my 75K mile engine over your (a generic "you") 5K mile engine because I know me, but not you. In the realm of use/misuse/abuse/hard use/neglect, I know exactly where I stand.
If I had to make a snap decision, I'd take my 75K mile engine over your (a generic "you") 5K mile engine because I know me, but not you. In the realm of use/misuse/abuse/hard use/neglect, I know exactly where I stand.
That's a good point. Either engine could fail at anytime.
I think you're right.
Dealer has provided another car with 10,000 fewer miles, another year of warranty, red/black interior which is what I originally wanted, same color with same options and although it does not have black wheels or tinted glass they agreed to powder coat the wheels gloss black. They're paying for shipping out here.
While I'm a little weary of their character, they seem to be making good on what appears to be due to a lazy salesman who told me he verified the history, when in fact he did not. I have to be relentless on demanding evidence of anything these people tell me. Lesson learned.
Dealer has provided another car with 10,000 fewer miles, another year of warranty, red/black interior which is what I originally wanted, same color with same options and although it does not have black wheels or tinted glass they agreed to powder coat the wheels gloss black. They're paying for shipping out here.
While I'm a little weary of their character, they seem to be making good on what appears to be due to a lazy salesman who told me he verified the history, when in fact he did not. I have to be relentless on demanding evidence of anything these people tell me. Lesson learned.
I actually like that your dealer is working to make sure you are satisfied, even though the first attempt was unsuccessful.
I've got chips because I drive the car. Unless it's a garage queen it's inevitable. A bad attempt at correction is inexcusable on a vehicle of this caliber. If you find a super cheap, really shitty Gremlin in my neighborhood though, let me know.
The one thing that still bothers me is this car was CPO'd.
I know from owning BMW's that they can only CPO cars that are cream of the crop, no damage ever, no mechanical issues, low miles, etc.
It appears Jaguar does not follow those guidelines as this car with a new engine and other mechanical issues was CPO'd...that's concerning.
Does anyone know more about how Jaguar CPO's a car?
I know from owning BMW's that they can only CPO cars that are cream of the crop, no damage ever, no mechanical issues, low miles, etc.
It appears Jaguar does not follow those guidelines as this car with a new engine and other mechanical issues was CPO'd...that's concerning.
Does anyone know more about how Jaguar CPO's a car?
It may just be marginal laziness. People think that Carfax knows and shows everything. If that's your standard, a clean report means a clean car. It's not the case though. Perhaps it's better than the Old Days, where the history was an impenetrable barrier before the last owner, but one still needs to exercise due diligence.
I actually like that your dealer is working to make sure you are satisfied, even though the first attempt was unsuccessful.
I've got chips because I drive the car. Unless it's a garage queen it's inevitable. A bad attempt at correction is inexcusable on a vehicle of this caliber. If you find a super cheap, really shitty Gremlin in my neighborhood though, let me know.
I actually like that your dealer is working to make sure you are satisfied, even though the first attempt was unsuccessful.
I've got chips because I drive the car. Unless it's a garage queen it's inevitable. A bad attempt at correction is inexcusable on a vehicle of this caliber. If you find a super cheap, really shitty Gremlin in my neighborhood though, let me know.
I agree with you.
I dont mind rock chips. They happen. Period.
The issue is the amature correction job.
GM told me he personally inspected the replacement car and it has one rock chip, and a clean warranty history, according to him.
I'm waiting on high resolution pics and the service sheets though to make sure he's right.
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I can't believe you're actually considering keeping it. You're only uncovering what you could uncover by records. It could have been wrecked and rebuilt by a shifty repairman then who knows what. You have no idea what the real history is. Run fast, very fast. You will most likely seriously regret it if you keep it.
I can't believe you're actually considering keeping it. You're only uncovering what you could uncover by records. It could have been wrecked and rebuilt by a shifty repairman then who knows what. You have no idea what the real history is. Run fast, very fast. You will most likely seriously regret it if you keep it.
I'm 99.9% sure I'm not keeping it.
I mentioned in another post that the dealer has put forward an alternative car that is acceptable to me.
I'm waiting for some additional information about it but I think I'll trust them to make it right.
I disagree with the premise, although it does include a disclaimer. A new engine or an old one that could fail at any time? The new engine could fail at any time also. There's not enough information here. I'd rather have a well-cared for 18K mile engine than a 5K mile engine that's been flogged.
If I had to make a snap decision, I'd take my 75K mile engine over your (a generic "you") 5K mile engine because I know me, but not you. In the realm of use/misuse/abuse/hard use/neglect, I know exactly where I stand.
If I had to make a snap decision, I'd take my 75K mile engine over your (a generic "you") 5K mile engine because I know me, but not you. In the realm of use/misuse/abuse/hard use/neglect, I know exactly where I stand.
I'm the opposite. The #1 cause of failed engines are wear and time. The newer, the better. I've had quite a few 500HP+ cars in my life and I sell them for a living. A new engine is always a benefit in this industry.






