That's a nice Civic, but a sports car? I thought my definition of sports car was liberal...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_cars. No Civic.

You know what I do Mike. Personally I don't read posts that don't interest me. If I would find myself reading and worse, getting emotionally wrapped up in a particular poster but i choose to remain attached to him, then I 'd realize the problem is me, not him. I thought you were so good over the last week staying away from my threads like I do yours but here you are again, here, mad, commenting.

There are so many other places to be Mike.

Of course you do because you do it, and you can't be a bad person. At least not in your own head.

The Civic was never "sports car" it was designed to be cheap transportation what killed it was Honda trying to turn it into a sports car and doing a crappy job of it. As far as hatchbacks they are alive and well everyplace but the US, here we won't buy them to save our lives. For instance in Europe the car I just bought, GLA45 AMG is considered a hatch, here a SUV. Same car...

Nice European review of hatches here: Top Gear RS3 vs GLA45 vs. WRX STi - Mercedes GLA Forum

But, for some screwy reason, US buyers don't want them.

I bought one of the very first Civics and it was highly modified by the dealer (picture attached) before I bought it back in 1972 (they originally sold through Honda motorcycle dealers). Honda Worldwide | CIVIC | History


The reason behind shaming, and it is shaming, is power and a need to control others. There is actually quite a bit of science behind it https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...control-others

What we do with our cars has no reflection on you. In fact there are folks that modify cars that were once thought to be sacrosanct. We call the result a Resto Mod and some are pretty wild. But, to date, no one has been badly scared by these efforts. But if you think you can shame folks to control them, good luck with that. It often doesn't end very well.

I feel the same way. In the first year after the F-Type launched, this community seemed much more about passion for the car and helpful tips and information. It was one of the highlights of the Jaguar ownership experience.

The culture on this board has changed....there are a lot more sniping and trolling posts to wade through to get to good content. Hopefully that's not reflective of how the ownership demographic is evolving. Jag owners have always been a bit offbeat, but generally classy.

I put up the post to explain a few of the things that can be done to an F.

There are plenty of other mods that folks have done, its really no big deal.

Each and every mod done as far as I can tell doesn't through an axe at Ian Callum and can be brought back to stock in a day if I sold the car to someone that like the way Jag did it.

Use this as a place to see a few things that can be done and if you wanted to know what they would look like you get to see.

Why would you discourage anyone from trying what they wanted, at worse, it give you an opportunity to make the judgement.

Relax, so we can get back on topic please. It's perfectly OK if you don't like what someone else did to their car, It's not yours to care this much.

I interpreted your KA KA comment as somewhat tongue-in-cheek, with a bit of irony. Works for me.

In general I still think this is a good group of guys. It is changing though. Maybe for the good. A little humor and debate has never hurt anyone. Who wants a night at the opera every day.

Anyways you guys have at it for a while...I think this post has run its course, It's getting boring around here.

Of course I can be a bad person, I could be lowering the lotion in the basket in-between posting, but until you personally get the hose again such characterizations from you are ultimately self-serving. Could it be that we simply disagree on acceptable norms of behavior both in posting and car modifications?

Also why did you in your fiery expose on mod criticism failed to mention just how criticism was handled? Tribalism much?

As to shaming, much better explanation is virtue signaling to peers.

Who's still interested in a short shifter? lol

ok.

That was great. The dead parrot was as well. You just have to love comedy done well.

No I don't.

Ok. Then go crawl in a hole and be unhappy. Doesn't change my life one bit either way.

Yes you do.
You have 4 minutes 32 seconds left.

Spot on.

I thought you wanted an argument.

And if I choose to use it for contradiction? I suppose if I'd paid for the full half hour that would get tedious.

Lizzardo, I am usually quick witted but an incident had me distracted/pissed off when I responded. Totally didn't register until this morning when I read your reply and felt like an ***. Sorry for screwing up the humor train. Carry on!

Abuse is the next forum over.

Next thing you'll be running in shouting "What's all this then?"

Thanks guys! I love it when a good funny riff gets rolling. Made my night (yes I'm easily amused).

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