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Yeah, the online chatter about the manual is only sustained by those who 1) never drove one 2) regret not driving one before buying an auto and continue to tell themselves "it's not a very good manual". So, ignore what you've read.
I've not driven a manual Porsche yet but as a manual transmission purist who's only owned manual cars, the F-type 6-speed is absolutely fine for road use and spirited driving, to the point that I'd not entertain buying an auto F-type. Is it for everyone one? No. If you're into drag racing or drive through heavy traffic regularly, it's not for you.
But for the ultimate engagement on back roads and twisties and if you enjoy rev matching, the manual is the way to go. As for the premium over the auto box, I agree. Mine has gone up in value 7% since I bought it 14 months despite the additional 7K miles that I put on since.
Yup, it's really a matter of preference. I don't mind modern BMW transmissions, but some folks call them rubbery. They are a bit isolated but some people like that vs. a more connected shifter feel. I used to have an FRS and loved that transmission feel, but people would complain that it was stiff when cold lol. There's always going to be people who hate, or folks who champion how theirs is the "best one", we are all lucky to not be driving Pontiac Azeks
Which also is useful when the shitty Jag dealership mechanics overfill the oil (which is common). A cheap syringe pump and plastic tubing that fits down the dipstick tube lets me extract such overfill myself to avoid returning to Jag.
It's even easier to extract oil from the ones without a dipstick. The tube is right there under the oil cap.
The 2.0 just doesn’t make sense MPG wise, I average 26.5 mpg with motorway and then some 30 stop start start. That’s awful for a 2 litre
The lifetime average for my V6S 6MT is 18.3mpg (US gallons) and the maximum I've ever got on a full tank is 25.0. I was almost 28 for the freeway but within five minutes of hitting the surface streets it was dropping quickly.
The lifetime average for my V6S 6MT is 18.3mpg (US gallons) and the maximum I've ever got on a full tank is 25.0. I was almost 28 for the freeway but within five minutes of hitting the surface streets it was dropping quickly.
This is not an economy car in any configuration.
Thanks for specifying US gallons. With so many posts regarding mpg coming from the UK, I sure wish US vs UK gallons were the same size because it's often impossible to know which is which to compute comparisons.
In California, the best mpg my P300 has delivered has been the advertised 30 in steady, long-haul highway driving, even at excessive speeds. But for short-haul trips I average only about 18mpg because I live in a very hilly area, in fact ".... Hills" is in the town's name. Does anyone living on flat ground get the advertised 24/city with the 2.0?
My missus' p300 XE gets driven quite briskly by her, mainly around town but with some country/distance drives. She can be particularly rambunctious with her launching from the lights. It gets about 8l/100km drinking the 95 octane fuel (which is different in Aust to US), which is about 30mpg.
Looking at traveling out of state this week to look at a p300 in the perfect color combination and spec. Been struggling with the decision for about a year now, love the look of the f-type but love the ride and sound of the XK.
If all is well and I wind up buying it I'm going to hold on to my rock solid 4.2 l n/a XK with only 65k for a few weeks as I'm a little concerned about having buyers/sellers remorse.
Looking at traveling out of state this week to look at a p300 in the perfect color combination and spec. Been struggling with the decision for about a year now, love the look of the f-type but love the ride and sound of the XK.
If all is well and I wind up buying it I'm going to hold on to my rock solid 4.2 l n/a XK with only 65k for a few weeks as I'm a little concerned about having buyers/sellers remorse.
Funny you mention it, I traded my 5.0 XKR for the F Type in 2016, and I'm still missing the XKR although I love the F Type, it is a completely different car. I'd trade the Mustang for another XKR but the Mustang is manual and I'd miss the gears.
Oddly enough I think the XK is better looking than the F Type (especially once they got the 2012 facelift), though I know I am in the minority there.
Folks that drive sports cars do not care about mileage much.
My P300 Jag gets better mileage than my 1.8 liter MG.
Yeah, I’m old enough to have driven through the 1973 and 1979 oil embargoes. Gas lines, rationing, odd-even days, price gouging… That experience stays with you.
My P300 goes fast enough, in beauty, style and comfort. With premium gas at around $4.50/gallon, fuel economy is just a little bonus for this frugal Yankee.
Looking at traveling out of state this week to look at a p300 in the perfect color combination and spec. Been struggling with the decision for about a year now, love the look of the f-type but love the ride and sound of the XK.
If all is well and I wind up buying it I'm going to hold on to my rock solid 4.2 l n/a XK with only 65k for a few weeks as I'm a little concerned about having buyers/sellers remorse.
If the car has the original Pirelli tires, ask the seller for a big discount so that you can immediately replace them with Continentals or Michelins.
Best of luck! Let’s us know how it goes.
I just purchased a 2020 P300 Coupe with 3300 miles. I was actually looking for a V6 but the deal (a virtually new car for just over half price) was way too good to pass up. My trade was a 2018 Mustang Ecoboost 6sp convertible. The Ecoboost is a wonderful engine which as someone in this thread said has better performance than most 60's, 70's muscle cars. The specs on the P300 are almost identical and the engine basically the same technology. I find the 4 cylinder F-Type to be extremely enjoyable to drive on the street. The car will never be tracked as I have a 1969 Datsun 2000 roadster vintage race car for that. I do miss the manual transmission but a small price to pay for the other benefits of the F-Type. As far as the handling the more I drive the car the more comfortable I get "tossing" it around. I also have a 2007 XKR and the feel of the F-Type is to me akin to a lighter, shorter XK which makes sense since the platform is essentially a shortened XK aluminum chassis. If your goal with an F-Type is to drive a stunningly styled, good handling sports car with adequate power for the street than the P300 makes all the sense in the world.
I just purchased a 2020 P300 Coupe with 3300 miles. I was actually looking for a V6 but the deal (a virtually new car for just over half price) was way too good to pass up. My trade was a 2018 Mustang Ecoboost 6sp convertible. The Ecoboost is a wonderful engine which as someone in this thread said has better performance than most 60's, 70's muscle cars. The specs on the P300 are almost identical and the engine basically the same technology. I find the 4 cylinder F-Type to be extremely enjoyable to drive on the street. The car will never be tracked as I have a 1969 Datsun 2000 roadster vintage race car for that. I do miss the manual transmission but a small price to pay for the other benefits of the F-Type. As far as the handling the more I drive the car the more comfortable I get "tossing" it around. I also have a 2007 XKR and the feel of the F-Type is to me akin to a lighter, shorter XK which makes sense since the platform is essentially a shortened XK aluminum chassis. If your goal with an F-Type is to drive a stunningly styled, good handling sports car with adequate power for the street than the P300 makes all the sense in the world.
Very helpful thank you. I know that they are two different cars and everyone might have a different preference but hypothetical question....
After getting used to the f-type now, if you were forced for some reason to part with one, which would it be the XKR or the f type?
Much to my wife's dismay I probably wouldn't part with either, or my 3 Triumphs, or our Sunbeam or E46 BMW Convertible. In all seriousness it would probably be the XKR as it is 17 years old and only used 4 months of the year. The F-Type will be my "daily driver" the rest of the year which is why I'm happy to have found such an incredibly low mileage P300. I love the XKR. It still puts a smile on my face everytime I get in it with the top down and just drive. It also has dispelled any reliability issue myths as I have had it 10 years and with the exception of a battery and HVAC blower motor been trouble free. I hope the F-Type is as reliable. They are really machines that were developed for two different purposes yet have a "family similarity". I would be hard pressed to choose!!
I just purchased a 2020 P300 Coupe with 3300 miles. I was actually looking for a V6 but the deal (a virtually new car for just over half price) was way too good to pass up. My trade was a 2018 Mustang Ecoboost 6sp convertible. The Ecoboost is a wonderful engine which as someone in this thread said has better performance than most 60's, 70's muscle cars. The specs on the P300 are almost identical and the engine basically the same technology. I find the 4 cylinder F-Type to be extremely enjoyable to drive on the street. The car will never be tracked as I have a 1969 Datsun 2000 roadster vintage race car for that. I do miss the manual transmission but a small price to pay for the other benefits of the F-Type. As far as the handling the more I drive the car the more comfortable I get "tossing" it around. I also have a 2007 XKR and the feel of the F-Type is to me akin to a lighter, shorter XK which makes sense since the platform is essentially a shortened XK aluminum chassis. If your goal with an F-Type is to drive a stunningly styled, good handling sports car with adequate power for the street than the P300 makes all the sense in the world.
Well said. A lot is made of this engine vs that in the F-Types, and for those who like theater the larger motors probably have a little more of that. But with the P300 you still are getting to drive one of the most beautiful designs around, with added nimbleness to boot, and I'm sure that turbo 4 makes plenty of power for the streets. I'd say it's probably not all that much slower in day to day driving than the V6, those little turbo 4's tend to have great torque curves. For a daily GT, especially at a discounted price, there really isn't much like it on the market.
Well said. A lot is made of this engine vs that in the F-Types, and for those who like theater the larger motors probably have a little more of that. But with the P300 you still are getting to drive one of the most beautiful designs around, with added nimbleness to boot, and I'm sure that turbo 4 makes plenty of power for the streets. I'd say it's probably not all that much slower in day to day driving than the V6, those little turbo 4's tend to have great torque curves. For a daily GT, especially at a discounted price, there really isn't much like it on the market.
Gotta agree with that last statement. You could do a LOT worse like buying an EV rather than a P300 F-type! 😉
Yeah, the online chatter about the manual is only sustained by those who 1) never drove one 2) regret not driving one before buying an auto and continue to tell themselves "it's not a very good manual". So, ignore what you've read.
I've not driven a manual Porsche yet but as a manual transmission purist who's only owned manual cars, the F-type 6-speed is absolutely fine for road use and spirited driving, to the point that I'd not entertain buying an auto F-type. Is it for everyone one? No. If you're into drag racing or drive through heavy traffic regularly, it's not for you.
But for the ultimate engagement on back roads and twisties and if you enjoy rev matching, the manual is the way to go. As for the premium over the auto box, I agree. Mine has gone up in value 7% since I bought it 14 months despite the additional 7K miles that I put on since.
Before the F type had a 996 GT2 with a CAE shifter and racing clutch....cup car cable....butter smooth and bolt action manual. The best by far ever.
So, the jaguar manual (tried) just was not all that great. And I now live in a very congested area (traffic is horrendous)....after being stuck in a bad 30 mile traffic jam in that other car, there is a certain beauty in a zf8hp70 with a VAP TCU tune. Very certain.
