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Old Jan 23, 2021 | 04:46 PM
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It’s probably been discussed but most of us have time to read these days so here are my reasons for saying it will be.

Despite being in production for 7 years there just aren’t that many around
Many onlookers don’t know what it is but all agree it is beautiful
Great performance
Jaguars ability to combine the beauty of a female with masculine feel and sounds
I believe it has a timeless organic shape while avoiding the stick on louvers, spoilers which are less expensive means of creating a sporty look

With everything heading to bland (yes fast) electrics with iPads for gauges I’ll keep my blown V8 and enjoy the tactile feel of buttons while being serenaded with the visceral exhaust and performance.

So yes I plan on keeping it when the lease is up.....something I haven’t managed to do despite all the bikes and cars I’ve said I would keep over the years.

Ive gone so far as tell my 2 kids that when I expire to sell whatever they like but keep the Jag and my Sub ( as agreed in other posts us car guys like watch’s)

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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 09:15 AM
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I bought my R since it was in my list of cars that qualified for what I wanted in a toy car but also because you just don't see them around. It is odd for so many years of production they are scarce or appear to be scarce. I haven't heard anyone say they see an abundance of them in their area. For that reason and the fact these cars are so powerful in the R format I think they will be a needle in a haystack find. Classic=maybe.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 09:45 AM
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Rarity alone is not a guarantee of future classic status.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Fjmviper
Ive gone so far as tell my 2 kids that when I expire to sell whatever they like but keep the Jag and my Sub ( as agreed in other posts us car guys like watch’s)
I've been doing car shows for well over 30 years now. Back in the 1980s, every show would have at least a dozen or more Ford Model A's, splendidly restored to original condition, festooned with club regalia and commemorative dash plaques, attended by white-haired men wearing uniform vests adorned with patches indicating all of the Model A club events that they'd attended over the years. Today (well, the year before Covid anyway) we were lucky to see even one original Model A at most car shows. The first generation of men who loved them are all gone now.

I've kind of wondered what happened to all those restored Model A's that we don't ever see anymore. Chip Foose got to a few of them, but I'll bet there are still tens of thousands of Model A Fords tucked away in garages that haven't moved in 20-30 years or more. As I drive around my own neighborhood, when the garage doors are up, I often see some kind of old car in the garage, under a cover or tarp, with boxes and boxes of crap stacked on top of it. (People always fill their garages with junk that they never use and couldn't get but a couple hundred dollars for if they had a garage sale while they let two brand new cars worth $60,000+ sit outside in the weather but that's a pet peeve for another thread.) I suspect they probably feel some emotional attachment to that old car in the garage and can't bring themselves to sell it, but they never drive it, never show it or anything. That was grandpa's hobby, not theirs.

I only wish my parents had kept some cool cars to pass down because I've got it bad (would love to still have mom's 68 Toronado), but the gearhead gene more often than not seems to skip every other generation. At least the watch takes up very little room in a jewelry box or safe.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 12:45 PM
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I've kind of wondered what happened to all those restored Model A's that we don't ever see anymore. Chip Foose got to a few of them, but I'll bet there are still tens of thousands of Model A Fords tucked away in garages that haven't moved in 20-30 years or more. As I drive around my own neighborhood, when the garage doors are up, I often see some kind of old car in the garage, under a cover or tarp, with boxes and boxes of crap stacked on top of it. (People always fill their garages with junk that they never use and couldn't get but a couple hundred dollars for if they had a garage sale while they let two brand new cars worth $60,000+ sit outside in the weather but that's a pet peeve for another thread.) I suspect they probably feel some emotional attachment to that old car in the garage and can't bring themselves to sell it, but they never drive it, never show it or anything. That was grandpa's hobby, not theirs.
I feel you. The gearhead in my family stops with me for the time being. My kids know I love cars and adore the F-Type, but if passed down it would be left to decay or sold.

But you never know. This story gives me hope:

 
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Old Jan 24, 2021 | 12:47 PM
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It's worse than playing Roulette trying to guess at which cars will or will not be considered classics. There is no guideline or path for a car to take to achieve such a status, it just depends on what people feel in 30-40 years from now.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SinF
Rarity alone is not a guarantee of future classic status.
Perhaps not, but the F-Type certainly has all the characteristics of a future classic. However, the changing environment/energy paradigm will make it difficult to enjoy these cars in several decades.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 11:02 AM
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All cars become "classic" at some point, even ubiquitous economy cars. At some point, survivors start appearing at local car shows. All cars invoke memories and have stories to tell and that's what makes them a classic, not sales volume or price criteria. Some are automotive stories like the Jaguar E-type that was deemed the most beautiful car in the world by the man who ought to know or the lowly Honda Civic that was so revolutionary that it forced the entire automobile industry to make significant changes. Most however just spark memories of youthful good times or as I mentioned above, absent friends and family. When this pandemic is over, just go to a local car show, marvel at the diversity and stop at the Pinto or old squarebody Chevy work truck and just listen to the stories. One-owner classics are often the most interesting because of the stories.

The only thing that's hard to predict is what a particular classic car will ultimately be worth and how soon it might get there. But as for the F-type, don't worry. Sports cars are "aspirational" for young people. Every gearhead between the ages of say 15 and 50 who can't afford one now likely has it on his wish list for when the kids are out of college and he finally makes senior management. But don't hold onto it thinking its an investment. After factoring the costs of ownership, there are far better long-term investments than classic cars. If you hold onto it, do so only because you enjoy driving it. If you ever decide to sell, maybe instead of just trading it in, take the time to try to find somebody who will enjoy it as much as you did and pass YOUR stories along with the keys. Nothing will ensure the car's future better than preserving its past.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
Perhaps not, but the F-Type certainly has all the characteristics of a future classic. However, the changing environment/energy paradigm will make it difficult to enjoy these cars in several decades.
As much as it irks me, I think original Tesla S will be collectable before F-type is.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pdupler
All cars become "classic" at some point, even ubiquitous economy cars. At some point, survivors start appearing at local car shows. All cars invoke memories and have stories to tell and that's what makes them a classic, not sales volume or price criteria. Some are automotive stories like the Jaguar E-type that was deemed the most beautiful car in the world by the man who ought to know or the lowly Honda Civic that was so revolutionary that it forced the entire automobile industry to make significant changes. Most however just spark memories of youthful good times or as I mentioned above, absent friends and family. When this pandemic is over, just go to a local car show, marvel at the diversity and stop at the Pinto or old squarebody Chevy work truck and just listen to the stories. One-owner classics are often the most interesting because of the stories.

The only thing that's hard to predict is what a particular classic car will ultimately be worth and how soon it might get there. But as for the F-type, don't worry. Sports cars are "aspirational" for young people. Every gearhead between the ages of say 15 and 50 who can't afford one now likely has it on his wish list for when the kids are out of college and he finally makes senior management. But don't hold onto it thinking its an investment. After factoring the costs of ownership, there are far better long-term investments than classic cars. If you hold onto it, do so only because you enjoy driving it. If you ever decide to sell, maybe instead of just trading it in, take the time to try to find somebody who will enjoy it as much as you did and pass YOUR stories along with the keys. Nothing will ensure the car's future better than preserving its past.
There is no doubt that over the same period of time, the S&P index appreciates faster than just about any particular model car, particularly after the cost inventory maintenance has been considered. Finding an example that does better is like hitting the lottery. The best return on any vehicle investment is derived from diving it, and as much as you can. Even with it's high rate of depreciation, the F-Type offers an incredibly high rate of return.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 06:01 PM
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F-TYPE has been too diluted to be considered a classic. I was at JLRNA when the naming disaster occurred. Base? Premium? R-Dynamic? Too many variations especially with the 4 banger turbo now. Confused the hell out of dealers ordering cars. I don't even consider the P7 or the SVR to be classics in the future. Adding bespoke parts and charging a premium for it doesn't make it a classic.

I can only see MAYBE the 2015 R becoming a classic as it was the original that really put Jaguar back on the map.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2021 | 09:56 AM
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I think the f-type has potential, but as stated above, it's going to depend on a lot of external factors. What's gas availability/cost going to look like in 20 years? Replacement electronic parts availability ( question for all modern cars, but especially low production ones)? Are fossil burners going to be considered desirable and socially acceptable in the future?

I remember the early to mid 70s gas crisis days. You couldn't give away a muscle car. There was a '71 Cuda Conv. 340 6 pack car on a lot on my way to work. Loved the body style but nobody was buying those back then. I watched the lot slowly drop the price for 9 months before the car finally disappeared. Those times sent a lot of the older muscle cars to the crusher making those that remain valuable today. On the other hand E-types didn't fall from favor during that period, I believe because of their beauty and rarity.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 09:50 AM
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Well, the F-Type is already appreciating in value as evidenced by this CarGurus ad from a JLR dealer in Ohio! Only one accident no less!






Car ad here
 

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Old Jan 30, 2021 | 11:09 AM
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Yeah, that’s going to fly off the shelf. LOL
 
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Old Feb 1, 2021 | 12:55 AM
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"Mileage unknown"

Seems like a bogus ad - someone is being obligated to list it but clearly does not want it to sell.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2021 | 07:41 AM
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Almost reminds me of Ed Bolian Gallardo ad.
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