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Old 01-12-2019, 12:17 PM
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Default F Type SVR convertible vs AMG GT-C convertible

The F Type and AMG GT-C are competitors in the two-seater sports car market, Both offer different experiences. Now that I'm back in the market for a two-seater roadster I'm looking at both the F Type R, SVR and the AMG GT-C.

What I like about the SVR:
1. It's a "Jag" and I'm partial to the brand.
2. I've had good experiences with the Jags I've owned to date.
3. Offers an exciting driving experience that puts a silly smile on my face.
4. It's the pinnacle of Jaguar performance.
5. Sound.
6. GT ride with sports car agility.
7. Supercharged and gives almost instant response. No need for turbos to spool up.
8. AWD is great for cold weather. A big plus for my climate.
9. Suspension is well damped.
10. Engine, horsepower and torque.


What I don't like about the SVR:
1. It doesn't look like a Jag enough. Proportions of length from driver to front too short and from rear wheel to back end too short. A roadster, IMO, should have a long front end.
2. It comes standard with Ford SUV brakes, Jaguar coined super performance brakes.
3. Homelink is an option.
4. The body kit, particularly the silly side sills, and signature rear wing make the car look nothing like a Jag or the next iteration of the E-Type.
5. The 4 cylinder base model cheapens the model making it less exclusive.
6. ZF sequential slush box. Although it works great and shifts quick it is not a dual clutch transaxle.
7. Convertible model doesn't look right with top up.

What I like about the AMG GT-C:
1. Looks like a roadster should with a long nose.
2. Looks great with the top up.
3, Dual clutch transaxle is super quick.
4. No silly body kit with large side sills, rear wing and fender vent. Looks stream lined and clean.
5. No cheap 4 cylinder offering to cheapen the model.
6. Looks great from any angle.
7. Wide track.
8. All models have proper performance brakes.
9. Well balanced.

What I don't like about the AMG GT-C:
1. Doesn't sound as good as a SVR, but can be changed.
2. It's not a Jag.
3. Doesn't seem as fast as the SVR. A more refined experience compared to the more raw Jag experience.
4. Rear wheel drive only.

The above is a quick comparison from my personal perspective. Has anyone else made similar or different comparisons or will like to provide input? I've added a picture of the Eagle Jaguar Speedster which is an improvement on the E Type without making it look silly.



 

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Old 01-12-2019, 12:26 PM
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I'd probably go with the SVR simply for the exhuast sound and the looks. Although, the GTC has more tuning potential and they sound pretty good straight piped. Fit and finish on the GTC is also superior to the SVR.
 
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Old 01-12-2019, 12:29 PM
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Personally, I like the proportions of the F-Type - that Merc just looks too nosey!
Germans have never made a beautiful car (yeah, I know, eye of the beholder 'n' all that).
 
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The AMG looks boring in comparison
 
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No offense to SVR owners at all when I say this. But the SVR looks like a V8 F-Type with some aftermarket goodies.

The AMG on the other hand really looks special. Plus, the fit and finish will be far superior to just about anything Jaguar puts out. I'd probably venture to say it's just a far better built car in general although that's a very vague statement.

I've owned to AMG's W203, and W204 and the fit and finish is better than the F-Type. Mind you, those were previous generation cars as well. There would be no comparison in terms of fit in finish between a P400 or whatever they're calling it these days and a W205 C63 AMG.
 
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaggyx
No offense to SVR owners at all when I say this. But the SVR looks like a V8 F-Type with some aftermarket goodies.

The AMG on the other hand really looks special. Plus, the fit and finish will be far superior to just about anything Jaguar puts out. I'd probably venture to say it's just a far better built car in general although that's a very vague statement.

I've owned to AMG's W203, and W204 and the fit and finish is better than the F-Type. Mind you, those were previous generation cars as well. There would be no comparison in terms of fit in finish between a P400 or whatever they're calling it these days and a W205 C63 AMG.

^^ Sadly I'd have to agree with most of this - even though my F type has been trouble free. And I too do not care for the body add ons for the SVR. On the flip side, at least used, the AMG's are considerably more expensive than the F types. Used F types R's are one of the biggest bang for the buck purchases out there, (with exotic styling) IMHO. May want to consider the used market. Either way, enjoy the process and good luck with your decision...
 
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Originally Posted by Chawumba
Used F types R's are one of the biggest bang for the buck purchases out there, (with exotic styling) IMHO.
Pretty much all used Jaguars fit that category - secret automotive bargains!
 
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Pretty much all used Jaguars fit that category - secret automotive bargains!
True, but the only the few models like our F types that have proven reliable are real bargains...
 
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Slightly off your topic, but IMHO I think you should buy a car like this one.

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7011/overview/

Then with the difference in money you didn't spend on a SVR, you could put $25-30K into an engine build (forged internals, meth injection, nitrous etc.) and have a 700+ HP monster.

Then drive the snot out of it, until after about a year or so when you get bored of it. Then sell it off to me for cheap.

 
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Sorry to say it but the merc has cleaner lines IMO, love the SVR in coupe form but convertible no, it's the leader in the F-type range in power and supposedly looks and shouldn't be even a convertible, no. In convertible form , the rear wing doesn't look right and the front side wings look like an after thought, sorry, coupe form yes.
 
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Not a real fan of the Benz looks which seem a bit BMW/Porche lovechild to me, but (while I am in the minority) I do love the bassy engine note more than Jags.

F@!* I hate this related thread ****, I always lose my place!
 
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Originally Posted by BruceTheQuail
Not a real fan of the Benz looks which seem a bit BMW/Porche lovechild to me, but (while I am in the minority) I do love the bassy engine note more than Jags.

F@!* I hate this related thread ****, I always lose my place!
Bruce, you can get rid of that annoying ***** as follows:
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In my humble opinion, the side view of the Benz is not too bad. Unfortunately, you have to look at the front, which to me is just downright UGLY! And as for the rear, if I wanted 1/2 of a 911, I'd buy the whole thing. I am not a fan of the Mercedes' looks and even less so of its SLS predecessor, a cartoon of a car.
 
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Originally Posted by BruceTheQuail
F@!* I hate this related thread ****, I always lose my place!
+1.
 
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
+1.
See post #12 Lance if you want to turn it off.
 
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Thanks, at least I'll post in the right thread now, my posts might even be relevant to the topic from time to time!
 
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Two points in favor of the F-type:
1. The front / hood / nose of the AMG is too long in my opinion. The exterior shape of the car is not as well balanced as the F-type's.
2. The AMG has a turbo engine, not a supercharged one. I love the linear / direct response of the F-type and could never get the same feeling with a turbo car (I tried various models of Porsche, BMW, Audi and MB but did not like any).
 
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Just drove my buddies GT-S tonight. I'd advise you yo drive both cars back to back. I've never driven an SVR, but the GT-S is an absolute monster. The chassis is downright amazing and the interior is nothing short of gorgeous.

That being said, front end visibility is horrible.
 
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This fall Mercedes will be producing the AMG GT-S in a soft top for 20MY. This means the convertible SVR and the AMG GT-S will be at the same price point. The AMG GT-C will still be made with the R enhancements and wide track and body and cost more. The front of the AMG does need some time to get use to and most agree on this. At least they are not going to fit a 4 cylinder in them with basic options to dilute the exclusivity of the model and brand. What would it do for Ferrari if they decided to fit out the 488 with a 4 cylinder? If I spend over $100K on a fun car I'd like to know it is special. Like most car purchases it is a decision of trade offs.


 
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Originally Posted by DGL
This fall Mercedes will be producing the AMG GT-S in a soft top for 20MY. This means the convertible SVR and the AMG GT-S will be at the same price point. The AMG GT-C will still be made with the R enhancements and wide track and body and cost more. The front of the AMG does need some time to get use to and most agree on this. At least they are not going to fit a 4 cylinder in them with basic options to dilute the exclusivity of the model and brand. What would it do for Ferrari if they decided to fit out the 488 with a 4 cylinder? If I spend over $100K on a fun car I'd like to know it is special. Like most car purchases it is a decision of trade offs.


Could not agree more.
 

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