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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 05:06 PM
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Although I'm probably in the minority, I think this car looks like the b#stard child of a Ferrari 458 and a Dodge Challenger.

The new Ford GT | Main gallery | Photos | Motorsport.com

That said, what really impressed me is the 600hp they're posting out of a 3.5L twin turbo V6 ecoboost powerplant.
I've been a fan of high power density engines, and of Jaguar moving into high power 6cyl plants for its top end models. This would enable them to satisfy CAFE and environmental standards while producing very high output with lighter cars. I think a high revving 6cyl turbo would sound pretty awesome!

High density is clearly the strategy for the Ingenium engines, but Jaguar hasn't announced a strategy for its V6 platform yet: to my knowledge they've only stated that they intend to produce the modular Ingenium in 6cyl variants but I'm not sure if that means they will stop sourcing engines from Ford also.

It would be pretty cool to see a Ford GT engine in a Jag XK successor or an SVR project. Regardless, this sets a new industry benchmark for high powered units which to me is the real news story of the Ford GT!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 05:17 PM
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I can see where you are coming from, with maybe a little of the edgier C7 Corvette mixed in. I just hope it's a nicer car to drive than the last Ford GT was.

That is impressive output to be sure, but don't forget the ole XJ220. Jaguar made 540hp from a twin turbo 3.5L V6 20 years ago. Just ahead of their time I guess.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 05:41 PM
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As far as styling goes, I am liking the front and side profiles. But I cannot stand the rear. Looks far too much like aerodynamics shaped it rather than being styled. Older one looked better all around. I guess just too much racecar in it for my taste, however I do like it, just don't love it.
The McLaren forums are rumoring that the GT will cost $400,000
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 06:25 PM
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2016 will be the 50th anniversary of Ford beating Ferrari at LeMans. The Ford GT40 had a 1-2-3 finish in their first year of competition (1966), and they went on to complete a 4-peat at LeMans (67-69)

Rumor has it that the design of the new car is being dictated by Ford's desire to win again at LeMans in 2016 to commemorate the 50th anniversary. However, this time, it will compete in the GT-Pro class against the best stock-based cars (C7, Porsche, Ferrari, and Aston-Martin). In order to do that, they have to produce a street car close to what they want to compete in, so they will build a small number for sale.

I almost bought a Ford GT in 2005 and not doing so was one of the dumbest financial decisions I've ever made, in perfect 20/20 hindsight, of course. They only built about 4000 cars in 05-06, and excellent condition cars today are selling for nearly double their original sticker price.

As for the engine, that will be dictated by the rules of the GT-Pro class, and I think 600 HP is close to the limit. Some of the 2005-06 Ford GTs today are making about 1000 HP with the supercharged 5.4L V8 that came in that car, which was 550 HP in stock form.
 

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Originally Posted by schraderade
Although I'm probably in the minority, I think this car looks like the b#stard child of a Ferrari 458 and a Dodge Challenger.
+1. trashy bling like the C07. Just my opinion folks! No statistically significant data to support it.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 06:37 PM
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You aren't going to win at LeMans in something that looks like the F-Type. I think that concept sketch is probably only suggestive of the final design, but in this case both the C7 and new Ford GT (if they actually do it) are more concerned about function over form.
 

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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
You aren't going to win at LeMans in something that looks like the F-Type. I think that concept sketch is probably only suggestive of the final design, but in this case both the C7 and new Ford GT (if they actually do it) are more concerned about function over form.
Agreed. This was designed for the track and legitimately looks like a race car. I suspect that this will be one of the most aerodynamic road vehicles produced to date. Ford stated that it is slated to race against other factory vehicles and I would be shocked if this wasn't the best out there.

just my 2 cents
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 06:52 PM
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Agreed!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
You aren't going to win at LeMans in something that looks like the F-Type. I think that concept sketch is probably only suggestive of the final design, but in this case both the C7 and new Ford GT (if they actually do it) are more concerned about function over form.
Too true. If I lived up in the mountains (which I did at one time) and needed a canyon racer 6 months out of the year, I'd get a Vette again. At this point in life, cruising the DC Beltway most of the time, I want something a bit more luxurious with refined looks.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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I like it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1djJDaPsno#t=29
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 09:21 PM
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Regardless of the styling Ford did drop a bomb with the unveiling of this car. It is not often the US puts out a mid-engined car.

The Acura NSX was also unveiled. Poor timing on their part. We have been waiting for a new NSX for a decade, and they were overshadowed by the GT.


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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 09:38 PM
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That is one sexy top down view.

 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 09:52 PM
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It's overwrought; give me the original GT40 or the GT anyday. Not as bad as the p.o.s. Aventador, but too busy for me. As for the NSX, I'll take the first series, thank you. The new one is like every other car in the Acura line, UGLYeeee!
 
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Old Jan 12, 2015 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ccfulton
That is impressive output to be sure, but don't forget the ole XJ220. Jaguar made 540hp from a twin turbo 3.5L V6 20 years ago. Just ahead of their time I guess.
Nice recall on the XJ220. That car was ahead of its time in many ways!

Ford seems to have wanted the flattened look for the GT, and the XJ220 is an example of how to pull it off strikingly while keeping lines clean. Hard to believe this is over 20 years old.


 
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 12:56 AM
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New Ford GT Engine Sound Videos

4 videos with exhaust sound of the new Ford GT V6 Twin Turbo

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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by tomas6791
Sound aside, the videos in the link above will impress anyone who has some knowledge of aerodynamics. It appears that the design is 99% purpose built, world-class track car aimed at beating the best, with some homage paid to the original GT40. The coefficient of drag will be minuscule and downforce tremendous.

While some may say that the XJ220 is an example of how to do it in a more aesthetically pleasing way, it's design couldn't come close to competing in the same league as the Ford GT.

It is clear to me that the new Ford GT wasn't built to win a "beauty contest."
 

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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
Sound aside........
It is clear to me that the new Ford GT wasn't built to win a "beauty contest."
All for performance....no romance.
My MINI sounds more aggressive at idle.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lhoboy
All for performance....no romance.
My MINI sounds more aggressive at idle.
I seriously doubt that, but who cares what it sounds like when it's sitting still. The dominant sound of those spinning turbos at idle suggests that they are enormous. At speed, it's likely to sound more like an F-16.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Foosh
At speed, it's likely to sound more like an F-16.
Apparently, you haven't heard a JCW at full trot. All you (and everyone else)can hear is the F-16 end of the Eaton Supercharger.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2015 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ccfulton
I can see where you are coming from, with maybe a little of the edgier C7 Corvette mixed in. I just hope it's a nicer car to drive than the last Ford GT was.
What was wrong with the old GT? I thought it drove rather well. Steering was good, and it didn't beat you up too bad driving over what Dearborn amusingly calls 'roads'. Other than the complete lack of rear visibility, I liked it.

Does the new concept actually drive under its own power (other than up the ramp at the auto show)? It does not appear to have room for a rear suspension.
 
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