Just looking over some paperwork for the 2024 F-type R purchase I'm about to make and "Front facing camera" is listed on the order details with all the other stand features and whatnot?

Does this car actually have that?

 

I've never seen a new one with front camera, which I think would be called the 360 option, be it '23 or '24. And no single '24 has Meridian Surround, which is a deal-breaker option for me. But some have said you could order both later on, so who knows. Please post if you're able to get confirmation either of those options is back on. Good luck.

 

I’m literally about to submit a signed purchase agreement for a 2024 R tomorrow for my allocation that I finally received days ago after waiting 8 months or so for it. On the options list that I speced is the Meridian Surround version. I was told just today that it is confirmed available for my build.

Of note, the surround version was not available to select on the builder for the Canadian site, but the dealer could add it for me. Again, this is a Canadian car, so not sure if this makes a difference. Thought I remember reading recently on here in another thread that all cars being allocated to the US market for 2024 have already been built? With that said, I don’t think you will find one down there with the Meridian surround, as I believe it literally just now came off of constraint…i.e.: Assuming there is truth to the idea that there are no more allocation available for the US.

I’ll have to ask about the front facing camera. I don’t care if it is 360, just having frontal view for parking would satisfy me. The LC500 has that and more compared to this F-type, but I don’t really care about a lot of the tech the f-type is missing compared to the competition. It makes up for it in other ways as far as I’m concerned. That said, would appreciate this visibility out the front.

 

Front-facing camera was never an option on the F-Type and I can't imagine them doing the engineering to add it to the limited number of '24 models they are going to sell seeing as it's the car's last year of production. It's never been on the configurator online so my guess is it's an error and a carryover from a different model (like the F-Pace).

 

‘Yeah, seems unlikely for sure

 

Er, it was, but what Jaguar calls the front facing camera is what detects speed limit signs and shows it in the dash. It was the one thing that irritated me when I test drove a V8 with it fitted - I don't want the car to tell me the speed limit! Nothing to do with the 360 views on other models.

 

Presumably there is also a front camera related to the auto dim headlights?

 

Ahh, okay, that’s making some more sense then. Thanks.

 

Ask your dealer for a copy of the VISTA sheet (it's the factory order detail). It will confirm what's in the configuration and will also give you a chance that everything you wanted is included. Back when I ordered the F-Pace, I caught an error that was easily corrected, since the car wasn't in production yet.

 

They did give me a really detailed list of order details of some sort here. Not sure if it’s called a VISTA sheet, but what I received is almost too detailed…

 

I'#d have thought you'd only need a sensor for incoming light detection, but more resolution would be required to identify speed limit signs.

 

I thought the highway sign feed was coming from navigation internet.
But I could be wrong - it does happen !!
I also think it most likely that there are no forward cameras fitted.
If there were surely they would be more functional than just reading speed signs?

 

The dealer at the test drive told me that the forward facing camera was used for road sign recognition. That doesn't rule out supplementing it with the navigation, but mine doesn't have the camera and doesn't display speed limit information in the dash.

 

Yeah, me too. And the LC500 is just getting it in 2024 (no 360). The LC500 is quite dated in tech too, and the little it has, is a generation behind; go figure. It just got a touch-screen too, along with adaptive cruise. So I wouldn't rate it better than the F-Type, at least until now (slightly better for 2024). It's hard to believe the 'grandpa' Jag dates back to 2013, and LC500 2017. Both look better than probably most sports cars today.

I didn't know that, so that being the case, it's absolutely obvious it won't get it indeed. Two dealers told me the forward facing camera was offered before, but I bet it was the speed-limit one then. And yes, I assume you get a default speed limit from the nav data, but many times it's wrong, so the camera overwrites it. I saw some '24s that included that feature, so that's probably what dealers inadvertently (and wrongly) thought was a front parking camera... which I'd have MUCH preferred. Ha ha. Oh well.

 

If that were the case then I'd expect all vehicles, regardless of FFC fitted, displaying the speed limit on the dash. But that doesn't happen - you have to have the camera to get that display.

 

Ah yes, correct. *That* camera exists, but one for parking does not.

 

This is correct. Most map data layers have the highway speed signs embedded in it, but the Jag definitely uses a camera for sign recognition, because it will show 'Do Not Pass' as well.

 

Not necessarily; it's a combination of software/firmware and nav data available. I have cars that display speed limit on the dash (and HUD), but no sign recognition camera. The Tesla had both, which is why I made the comment above: When the nav info was wrong, it was immediately changed after passing a speed limit sign, and it'd show correctly from that point on. The Jag apparently reads every freaking street sign, and just displays it on the dash... but no speed limit from the nav data. Since the car is dating back to 2013, it's probably a very dated system, even with some improvements. In that case, I'd like to have the forward facing camera, since I'm very used to have the speed limit info displayed somewhere since I can remember.

 

You're assuming Jaguar and Tesla do things in the same way? Not sure that's true.

 

To add to this, I can also verify that the 'speed detection' does read signs as there are a couple of misplaced speed limit signs near where I live and they trigger the speed limit warning on both the F-Type and my father's RAV-4 PHEV. One of those signs is a single '30' that is on an exit road that is ahead of you as you approach a sharp, 90-degree, left turn. There is no 30-limit on that road, but the council refuses to remove the sign (due to the cost and because "it's not doing any harm"). Another is a legitimate pair of '40' signs that are again on a road straight-ahead, but the natural path of the road is, again, a sharp 90-degree left turn. Then, due to the absence of other speed-limit signs, both cars decide that you are to continue doing 40mph on a 60mph road. Safe to say the option was turned off on both cars VERY quickly.