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Old Oct 26, 2017 | 11:02 PM
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My build has hit a stopping point short of where I wanted.

My '15 XFS 3.0L with a soon to be one-of -a-kind direct port spray kit has come to a stopping point.

I can;t get a LSD on the rear axle without major rework and programming ...which no one I know of will do.

When I dyno, I expect to get 450 WHP with a progressive spray, but in actual track or street, I won;t be able to put that power to the ground because the lack of a LSD or any sort of viable options other than welding the dam things together. F$%$K!!!!!!

Should of got the F type .... ok...done crying ...moving on to the next project...
 
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Old Oct 26, 2017 | 11:53 PM
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You can't fit a mechanical LSD?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 12:20 AM
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For a quarter you can touch my door handle.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 12:37 AM
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For a quarter you can touch my door handle.

..you want me to touch your"door handle" huh....oooKaaaayyyy Mr. Creepy Scary....
 

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Originally Posted by Cherry_560sel
..you want me to touch your"door handle" huh....oooKaaaayyyy Mr. Creepy Scary....
I wouldn't be too scared if I were you, judging by his name he is toothless!
 
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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 01:29 AM
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You can't fit a mechanical LSD?
the only one I have found is the Quaife LSD...but after getting some info from Cambo on the differences between model years, it looks like the Quaife wont fit the 2012 and up XF.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 07:47 AM
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There is a thread on XK forums reporting that some people were swapping F-type S LSD in. Maybe you can fit it into XF? However, at 450WHP you will probably be past mechanical tolerances.

I also feel your issues. My last SL had open differential. It was major flaw in the handling department. I went with F-type S just to get LSD.
 

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Originally Posted by SinF
There is a thread on XK forums reporting that some people were swapping F-type S LSD in. Maybe you can fit it into XF? However, at 450WHP you will probably be past mechanical tolerances.
I'm sure that Lance will find out if that is the case.

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I also feel your issues. My last SL had open differential. It was major flaw in the handling department. I went with F-type S just to get LSD.
Me too! My previous car was FWD and ~275HP, and the open diff was a major hindrance.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
For a quarter you can touch my door handle.
Door handle price gouging if I've ever seen it. 20 cents! And I'm closer
 
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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 11:24 AM
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You could swing an F-Type. After I cut back on things i really didn't need, like food and shelter, the numbers made more sense.
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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CRS 123
After I cut back on things i really didn't need, like food and shelter, the numbers made more sense.
CRS
Don't forget kidneys, you don't NEED two.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 02:20 PM
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The best T-Type comment I ever saw was "I am not gay, but I would suck a #### just to be able to drive one of those for a day." LOL!!!! That seriously had me laughing for ten minutes.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
The best T-Type comment I ever saw was "I am not gay, but I would suck a #### just to be able to drive one of those for a day." LOL!!!! That seriously had me laughing for ten minutes.
Laughing for ten minutes, but not walking for a day?
 
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Originally Posted by Cherry_560sel
My build has hit a stopping point short of where I wanted.

My '15 XFS 3.0L with a soon to be one-of -a-kind direct port spray kit has come to a stopping point.

I can;t get a LSD on the rear axle without major rework and programming ...which no one I know of will do.

When I dyno, I expect to get 450 WHP with a progressive spray, but in actual track or street, I won;t be able to put that power to the ground because the lack of a LSD or any sort of viable options other than welding the dam things together. F$%$K!!!!!!

Should of got the F type .... ok...done crying ...moving on to the next project...
What's the big deal? As you suggest, just weld up the spider gears. Excessive rear tire wear, but overall still a lot cheaper than installing a new diff. I've done that on all my race cars converted from street, and on a couple of street cars with blown spiders. Actually works better than a standard friction style LSD on the track (not as well as a Torsen, though). Just make certain you chip and flush out 100% of the slag.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 03:12 PM
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What's the big deal? As you suggest, just weld up the spider gears. Excessive rear tire wear, but overall still a lot cheaper than installing a new diff. I've done that on all my race cars converted from street, and on a couple of street cars with blown spiders. Actually works better than a standard friction style LSD on the track (not as well as a Torsen, though). Just make certain you chip and flush out 100% of the slag.
...lol..yeah..then I would have to power slide into every turn...hahahaha..if this was a dedicated track car, I would totally do it..hehehe...but its not a feasable solution for a street daily driver.
 
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Originally Posted by SinF
There is a thread on XK forums reporting that some people were swapping F-type S LSD in. Maybe you can fit it into XF? However, at 450WHP you will probably be past mechanical tolerances.

I also feel your issues. My last SL had open differential. It was major flaw in the handling department. I went with F-type S just to get LSD.
I am looking into that, Cambo suggested the same thing. The swap is no problem, but I will have to reprogram because the gearing is different. That's where I run into the roadblock!

The V8 Ftype has the same gearing as the V6 right? I shouldn't run into any issues with mechanical tolerances. The 3.0L XF has virtually the same components that the 5.0L XF does and they can handle loads of torque and HP. But again, it comes down to the differences in the rear differential.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherry_560sel
I am looking into that, Cambo suggested the same thing. The swap is no problem, but I will have to reprogram because the gearing is different. That's where I run into the roadblock!

The V8 Ftype has the same gearing as the V6 right? I shouldn't run into any issues with mechanical tolerances. The 3.0L XF has virtually the same components that the 5.0L XF does and they can handle loads of torque and HP. But again, it comes down to the differences in the rear differential.


The Tranny yes. The diff no.


Final drive ratios:
2.0 3.55
V6 Manual 3.31
V6S Manual 3.31 LSD
V6 auto 3.15
V6S auto 3.15 LSD
Corrected typo: R & SVR auto 2.56 ELSD


What's the final drive ratio on your XF and what tranny do you have?
 

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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 06:36 PM
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"The 3.0L S/C in the XF and XJ has a 2.56:1, which is the same ratio as the 5.0L S/C in the other models" -Cambo

---All the newr 2012 and up XF models have ZF 8 spd tranny.....so if examining these gear ratios for the XF and R/SVR F type the gearing is very similar and there should be no issues with reaching the mechanical limits of any drivetrain parts. An XFR should would be a bit quicker off the line. The 5.0L XF is able to put down more torque than the 3.0L ..theoretically, the XFR or XFR-S gearing should switch over, but as Cambo explained, it would take some part swapping (which is no problem) and ...reprogramming (problem) the TCU and ECU to recognize the Ediff module.
 

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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 09:44 PM
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I had a typo above. The F-Type R has a 2.56 diff, but it's an ELSD, so you wouldn't have the necessary software or wiring (perhaps a control module as well) in your car to operate it.
 
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