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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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No, it doesn't wink, just looks like you're a loser using half your fog lights when there's no fog. Jaguar did it much better in my 2010 XKR - bulb embedded in the headlamp unit and it only came on if the headlights were on. Still not very useful, though.
Haha. Well I know it doesn't blink so it's not quite a wink, but I meant in the sense that only 1 is on. It does seem pretty dumb
 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 01:03 PM
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I know each headlight is 3 grand, so be careful!
Sometimes I wonder why I bought a Jag. Plastic headlights are plastic headlights.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 01:24 PM
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Is a cornering light like a turn signal? You folks across the pond have some weird terms haha.
Cornering lights are not a strictly European item, nor are they particularly new. Example: the (beautiful) 1966 Mercury had optional large cornering lights on the front fenders - where the rectangular grille is :



And the Jaguar DRL system for Canada-market cars (DRL mandated since 1990) has had ALL the exterior lights illuminated all the time (that included low beam headlamps until the introduction of the LED J-blade) - other makes illuminated only front marker lamps or reduced power to the headlamps leaving the sides and rear of the car in total blackout. It is not rare, even today, to see cars (or rather NOT see) cars after dark with only front lights illuminated. The clueless driver, seeing that the road in front is illuminated, assumes that his/her rear lights are also on. The Jaguar system is much safer. Until 2004 the Jaguar system also illuminated the instrument cluster. The result was that owners almost never needed to do anything related to the lights. My wife has been driving her X-Type (great car!) daily for 16 years...and I don't think (seriously) that she even knows where the light switch is - because she has never had to touch it; all the lights are on all the time.
 

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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 01:29 PM
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Sometimes I wonder why I bought a Jag. Plastic headlights are plastic headlights.
If you think this cost is a "Jaguar thing", you are mistaken. Headlight units in all luxury cars these days are very complicated items and a price of $2500-3500 per unit is not at all uncommon (suggestion: price an Audi unit...). Sad but true. I had one unit replaced on my F-Type under warranty because of a mark inside - and I was shown the invoice cost which was well over $3000.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sov211
If you think this cost is a "Jaguar thing", you are mistaken. Headlight units in all luxury cars these days are very complicated items and a price of $2500-3500 per unit is not at all uncommon (suggestion: price an Audi unit...). Sad but true. I had one unit replaced on my F-Type under warranty because of a mark inside - and I was shown the invoice cost which was well over $3000.
I hear you about many manufacturers setting up this kind of adversarial relationship to milk their customers.

I disagree that our multi-thousand dollar units are complex. It's a standard HID projector inside a molded plastic housing sitting on an entry level 35W HID ballast. Is the $30 ballast (high retail) even included on a replacement part?
 

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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sov211
If you think this cost is a "Jaguar thing", you are mistaken. Headlight units in all luxury cars these days are very complicated items and a price of $2500-3500 per unit is not at all uncommon (suggestion: price an Audi unit...). Sad but true. I had one unit replaced on my F-Type under warranty because of a mark inside - and I was shown the invoice cost which was well over $3000.
I had to replace a headlight on my Z06 which is a comparably priced vehicle and it was about a third of that price.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 03:04 PM
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Now I understand why they put it just at the edge of the front side spoilers on the MY21. Every small touch in parking lots
generates cash for Tata
 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 03:46 PM
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Glass headlights would kill you in a crash, then there is the needless weight of glass and the extra hardware it would require to hold that weight.

You are talking about $200,000-400,000 for the tooling. That's why some car manufacturers use light assemblies from other cars, they are cost prohibitive.

 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Queen and Country
Glass headlights would kill you in a crash, then there is the needless weight of glass and the extra hardware it would require to hold that weight.

You are talking about $200,000-400,000 for the tooling. That's why some car manufacturers use light assemblies from other cars, they are cost prohibitive.
Not so JLR, with the redesign of the MY21 headlights. If you think that on 3000 cars, it is about 100$ for each just for the headlight tooling.
You are right, they could take instead parts from Hyundai.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cleantex
with the redesign of the MY21 headlights
That most likely cost them a few million. The astronomical stamping dies for the body panels, the staff of designers, prototypes, testing for functionality.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2020 | 06:38 PM
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I like our plastic headlights. Can we price them at double market value instead of 5-10x?
 
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