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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 04:40 PM
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I just ordered a winter wheel and tire package (19" OEM propeller wheels/Blizzak Lm32s) from Mike at Midwest Wheel and tire with a goal to do my own seasonal changeouts, a new endevour for me.
In anticipation I am purchasing the necessary accessories such as the torque wrench and sockets. However, I cannot find the size of the lugnuts anywhere; whether they are metric, imperial or SAE and, whether I need thin walled sockets. I also noted unhappiness with Jaguar OEM lugnuts on other posts. Can anyone advise on
1. The size of the sockets necessary and if it needs to be thin walled for OEM wheels?
2. If alternate lugnuts are necessary (and if so, any specific brand recommended)

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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 04:52 PM
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I bought a universal set of lugnut sockets (and torque wrench), which I have yet to use. I'll try to remember to see which one fits tonight...
 
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 05:12 PM
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Stock lug nuts are 12x1.5 thread and 19 mm head/socket.
Doesn't need to be a thin walled socket, I use a proper tire fitters socket with a plastic sleeve and it fits with plenty of room.
The lug nuts are also flat faced with built in washers, this is important, most lug nuts are tapered/acorn and you don't want that with OEM wheels as it may damage them.
Plenty of sets of 20 OEM Jag lug nuts available on eBay (the same nuts fit pretty much all modern Jags, no need to pay extra for so-called F-Type ones), but the caps are prone to damage and lots have looked for alternatives without much luck.
I have determined that many/most Toyota and Mitsubishi lug nuts are the right 12x1.5 thread and flat faced, so they fit OK, only problem is they are 21 mm head not 19 mm, so a sleeved socket could be a tight fit.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2016 | 05:49 PM
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Couldn't ask for a better answer - Thanks a bunch. I've ordered everything up now and ready to start developing my very basic skills when everything arrives. Funny that it needed a car as nice as this to stimulate my enthusiasm to do it myself.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 01:02 PM
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What jack are you proposing to use?
 
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 04:03 PM
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I have a craftsman floor jack, nothing special, but it works for my Audi I was thinking to use this, once I find the jack points. Out of curiosity is there something I should know about the Jacks did this car?
 
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Old Nov 2, 2016 | 04:19 PM
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The car is a cinch to jack and the points are easy to find.
On each side sill, right on the bottom edge, you will find little triangular indentations which point to the jacking points. On the front it's a bit of flat steel plate, on the rear it's in the middle of a set of three bolts, you really can't miss them. Best to get right down on your back/side and line up the head of the jack with the jacking point, then once the jack starts to take some weight have another look/check to make sure it's in the right spot. After a couple of times it becomes really easy to get it right.
The F-Type is much easier/better than the XF which has annoying sills that the jack head must go around, these sills bend far too easily.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2016 | 03:44 PM
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Back to the lug nuts: those on my 1996 MGF also fit my F-type (19mm AF, flat washers and all)...
 
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Old Nov 26, 2016 | 01:48 AM
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For black lugnuts - personal taste, but probably looks better on black wheels --- http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-pcs-Black...dXpAv3&vxp=mtr

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20-TOY01-BLK

Also found pic of Jack points and support points - first pic is Jack points ....



 

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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 12:37 AM
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Will 21mm lugnuts fit? With a thin sleeve wrench for clearance? Lots of those out there.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
Will 21mm lugnuts fit? With a thin sleeve wrench for clearance? Lots of those out there.
They should, but it may depend on the wheels and their hole sizes, I think those hole sizes vary a bit across the range of OEM Jag wheels.
I have a set of four 21 mm lugnuts so just for a test I tried one, it went on OK to start with but I couldn't get a normal 21 mm socket on it to properly torque it up without damaging the wheel.
I suspect a 21 mm plastic sleeved thin-walled socket but with the sleeve removed would work.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Burt Gummer
For black lugnuts - personal taste, but probably looks better on black wheels --- 20 pcs Black Mitsubishi Mag Style Lug nuts 12x1.5 fits OEM wheel fits Lancer EVO

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20-TOY01-BLK

Also found pic of Jack points and support points - first pic is Jack points ....



I'm 100% sure those are the XF axle stand support points, and not the F-Type jacking points. So both different car and different type of support points.
I know where the F-Type jacking points are but I don't know where the axle stand points are.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2016 | 01:04 AM
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Thanks I'll stick to the 19mm.

As for the above pictures I got them off another Jag forum of which I am not a member - I would never cheat on this forum .
 
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Old Aug 27, 2017 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AbyJag
I just ordered a winter wheel and tire package (19" OEM propeller wheels/Blizzak Lm32s) from Mike at Midwest Wheel and tire with a goal to do my own seasonal changeouts, a new endevour for me.
In anticipation I am purchasing the necessary accessories such as the torque wrench and sockets. However, I cannot find the size of the lugnuts anywhere; whether they are metric, imperial or SAE and, whether I need thin walled sockets. I also noted unhappiness with Jaguar OEM lugnuts on other posts. Can anyone advise on
1. The size of the sockets necessary and if it needs to be thin walled for OEM wheels?
2. If alternate lugnuts are necessary (and if so, any specific brand recommended)

Thanks for any guidance
OP, did you go OEM staggered sizes with the 19" Propellers, as I can't find LM32s in the 245/40; 275/35 sizes? I have the Propellers myself as a dedicated winter setup and I'm about to pull the trigger on tires this week.

Do you guys think this jack pad would be helpful, or do I risk bending the pinch welds?
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I'm use to BMW and their easy to locate jacking points and Schwab adapter.

Also, would this 19mm non-marring lug nut socket do the trick for both my front/rear 20" Rotor wheels. Rears sit very deep. I just noticed I don't have 19mm, BMWs are 17mm.

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Old Aug 27, 2017 | 05:30 PM
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The F-Type jacking points don't have pinch welds, they are all "flat" spots, so you don't need a puck.
And yes, the pictured socket will work perfectly, I have been using one of them for years.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by OzXFR
The F-Type jacking points don't have pinch welds, they are all "flat" spots, so you don't need a puck.
And yes, the pictured socket will work perfectly, I have been using one of them for years.
I could have sworn I saw or read something about the spare tire/jack kit that comes with some FTypes (certain markets?), that the scissor jack had a grove in order to match up with the pinch weld.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 12:09 PM
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So these are the black lug nuts (Mitsubishi) folks have recently been using without a problem for our OEM wheels?

20 pcs Black Mitsubishi Mag Style Lug nuts 12x1.5 fits OEM wheel fits Lancer EVO | eBay
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Kief
So these are the black lug nuts (Mitsubishi) folks have recently been using without a problem for our OEM wheels?

20 pcs Black Mitsubishi Mag Style Lug nuts 12x1.5 fits OEM wheel fits Lancer EVO | eBay
They may or may not work for you, see this thread and especially post #5: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...-locks-184921/
You're probably better off spending a few more $ and getting the new black Gorilla nuts part # 73138JBC.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2017 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by OzXFR
They may or may not work for you, see this thread and especially post #5: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...-locks-184921/
You're probably better off spending a few more $ and getting the new black Gorilla nuts part # 73138JBC.
Thanks
$80 bucks shipped from Discount Tire Direct. I'm not near an America's Tire store, so I wasn't sure where to purchase. But then I decided to call their online branch and sure enough, they can ship them.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2017 | 02:52 AM
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So what do people do with the locking lugnut? 4 black/1 chrome? Or just go lock-free?
 
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