F-Type ( X152 ) 2014 - Onwards

My 2016 V6S manual is no more

Old Sep 11, 2025 | 09:45 AM
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Default My 2016 V6S manual is no more

I was going to Vegas last week and hydroplaned on I40 near Williams, AZ. Wound up rolling and spent the past week in a Flagstaff hospital with fractured shoulder and 11 broken ribs (all left side). Photos are up on Copart as of yesterday.

I do not know yet how settlement will play out given how few manuals were sold in the States.

Passenger compartment was left mostly in tact and the seat design is what I believe allowed what amounts to walking away alive. I was life-flighted but no surgeries or stitches were needed. I believe they injuries came from the left wing of the seat, but it beat the alternative.

I still have the key, so we will know next week if the engine would still turn over. Right rear wheel came off, so i wont be able to try and drive it. Side bags popped but not dash or steering wheel bags. It will be a total but engine and trans might have value. Car is in Copart lot at North Phoenix location.

I am in an aftercare facility until next week, so it will be a week before they can updat. Other keys and rear cargo cover are at the house.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2025 | 10:10 AM
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Sorry to hear. Heal fast!
 
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Old Sep 11, 2025 | 10:19 AM
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Default But you came out ALIVE!

OMG and so sorry to read of this horrible turn of events. ++++1, you are alive, seriously hurt, but able to be moved to aftercare. Though I never really thought deeply about how the F would protect me in such an accident, it was good to read that yours did its job to protect you.
Somewhat disturbed by the depreciating F values, I moved my 2017 manual F to Hagerty, where I was able to place an "agreed value" on it. $48,000 on a Premium, Vision Pack, Pano roof. If standard ins. co's are 'totalling" cars when repairs exceed 70% of value, 70% of $48K is better than 70% of $21-$35K.
MOST importantly, we will be hopeful that YOU have a full recovery.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2025 | 01:41 PM
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Man that was a nasty accident. Hope you have a good recovery. In case anyone wants to see pictures https://www.copart.com/lot/71813335/...-phoenix-north
 
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Old Sep 11, 2025 | 01:42 PM
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Sorry to hear. Car is totally trashed, but I'm glad you came out in one piece.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2025 | 07:03 PM
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Sorry to hear. Car is totally trashed, but I'm glad you came out in one piece.
it IS a total, but the interior cabin is relatively unscathed. The design DID do it's job at protecting me.

Looking at pics, it appears side curtain bags popped but neither of the front bags.

I do have, and will be providing all keys when I get home. I'll have one key to give next week and will update on whether it starts. If so, someone in the region may want to acquire it. Prelimary numbers have it at a bit over $4K on salvage value. Im getting screwed on the initial valuation, but they missed a lot of stuff. And, they are trying to use slushboxes for comps...

If anyone from here decides to eventually bid, I can supply records, most of which are just oil change and tire things, but it did get TWO clutches under warranty. I could also authorize my service writer to verify history since new...but the auction is likely at least a month away.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2025 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ftyperegistry
Man that was a nasty accident. Hope you have a good recovery. In case anyone wants to see pictures https://www.copart.com/lot/71813335/...-phoenix-north
moved to aftercare yesterday and expect to be released next week to return to Texas. I'll be flying out of PHX after probably overnighting at a hotel. Plan if to rent a car in Flagstaff Wednesday, hit Copart either that day or next morning, then turn car in and go to Houston. Hoping to find my watch and a few other things...Will also be going by the accident scene since I have the mile marker...
 
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Old Sep 11, 2025 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Valerie Stabenow
OMG and so sorry to read of this horrible turn of events. ++++1, you are alive, seriously hurt, but able to be moved to aftercare. Though I never really thought deeply about how the F would protect me in such an accident, it was good to read that yours did its job to protect you.
Somewhat disturbed by the depreciating F values, I moved my 2017 manual F to Hagerty, where I was able to place an "agreed value" on it. $48,000 on a Premium, Vision Pack, Pano roof. If standard ins. co's are 'totalling" cars when repairs exceed 70% of value, 70% of $48K is better than 70% of $21-$35K.
MOST importantly, we will be hopeful that YOU have a full recovery.
I would have gone to Hagerty on this one, but I didn't want a cap on mileage. They have three of my other cars and were great on the XK8 claim several years ago and hail on the Spider two years ago.

Liberty Mutual has this one under $20K but they missed a lot of stuff. I get being dinged for mileage but the car was otherwise in pristine condition. It isn't our fault that 2016 saw fewer than 600 manual V6S brought to the States and we shouldn't pay a penalty for the scarcity of comps...
 
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Old Sep 11, 2025 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mbelanger
I would have gone to Hagerty on this one, but I didn't want a cap on mileage. They have three of my other cars and were great on the XK8 claim several years ago and hail on the Spider two years ago.

Liberty Mutual has this one under $20K but they missed a lot of stuff. I get being dinged for mileage but the car was otherwise in pristine condition. It isn't our fault that 2016 saw fewer than 600 manual V6S brought to the States and we shouldn't pay a penalty for the scarcity of comps...
440 for the US in 2016 in case it helps your case
 
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Old Sep 11, 2025 | 08:16 PM
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440 for the US in 2016 in case it helps your case
thnx...I had seen 579 to 600 for North America.
 
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@mbelanger Wishing you a speedy recovery...

Was there a rainstorm prior to or during the accident? Were you in a curve or straight line?
 
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@mbelanger Wishing you a speedy recovery...

Was there a rainstorm prior to or during the accident? Were you in a curve or straight line?
it had rained prior, and I saw the wet road ahead. Straight line on I40 in a posted 75. I was slowing down when I saw the water ahead.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2025 | 10:13 PM
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Yikes. Sorry about the car. Wishing you a fast & full recovery.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2025 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mbelanger
Passenger compartment was left mostly in tact and the seat design is what I believe allowed what amounts to walking away alive.
I can attest to the robustness of the chassis. When I got rear-ended I drove away but the front of the other car was utterly destroyed.

Glad to hear you're on the mend, and good luck with getting everything settled.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2025 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mbelanger
I was going to Vegas last week and hydroplaned on I40 near Williams, AZ. Wound up rolling and spent the past week in a Flagstaff hospital with fractured shoulder and 11 broken ribs (all left side). Photos are up on Copart as of yesterday.

I do not know yet how settlement will play out given how few manuals were sold in the States.

Passenger compartment was left mostly in tact and the seat design is what I believe allowed what amounts to walking away alive. I was life-flighted but no surgeries or stitches were needed. I believe they injuries came from the left wing of the seat, but it beat the alternative.

I still have the key, so we will know next week if the engine would still turn over. Right rear wheel came off, so i wont be able to try and drive it. Side bags popped but not dash or steering wheel bags. It will be a total but engine and trans might have value. Car is in Copart lot at North Phoenix location.

I am in an aftercare facility until next week, so it will be a week before they can updat. Other keys and rear cargo cover are at the house.
Glad you survived! That happened to me in a Mustang Cobra and I have been driving all wheel drive vehicles ever since!☮️
 
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Old Sep 15, 2025 | 04:00 PM
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Glad to hear you survived.

The severity of your injuries are shocking though considering how large and heavy the F-TYPE is.

In my earlier 20's I totaled my first Honda S2000 by going over the side of a cliff, landing upside down, and sliding about 50 feet into a ravine. I was hanging upside down by my seat belt when the car came to a complete stop. I was able to walk away with only minor bruising and scratches from the broken glass. I'm also 6'3 and the S2000 is a much smaller car.
 
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Both horrible accidents. Perhaps the difference is the F rolled, possibly flinging him around, despite being belted in. But the belts also saved him, better broken ribs than end of life.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Valerie Stabenow
Both horrible accidents. Perhaps the difference is the F rolled, possibly flinging him around, despite being belted in. But the belts also saved him, better broken ribs than end of life.
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I was cocooned into the seat which helped tremendously IMO.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2025 | 06:39 PM
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Glad you are in the mend. Sad news about the Jag.

for valuation, it might help to check C&B and BAT for recent MT auctions? I believe there was one or two earlier this year, don’t remember how much each went for but that might be a source for wholesale value at least. I’ve not ever totaled a car but with how few hit the market it might help flesh out the numbers a bit more, with $ added for retail. Good luck and quick healing!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2025 | 10:04 AM
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Multiple sources online.. Kelley BB,etc. provide this explanation:

"If the insurance company declares your car a total loss, they will reimburse you for the fair market or book value of the vehicle immediately before the loss occurred, minus your deductible and any other fees.

Insurance companies “total” a car when the cost to repair the damage exceeds the vehicle’s book value at the time of the crash.

“Book value” is another way of saying “market value.” For instance, Kelley Blue Book closely monitors the automotive market, keeping track of what every make and model currently sells for as it ages. Whatever the actual cash value is at any given time is its book or market value."

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If you are insured with a company that uses 'book value' for your F, best to find out exactly what that value is. I just 'valued' my 2017, Premium F, 6 cyl, manual trans, Vision Pack, Panoramic roof, 43K miles and NADA came back at $28,000. I moved the F to Hagerty coverage for an agreed value of $48,000. Same coverage and premium was less for that and our 2018 Corvette (Agreed Value $50,000). Perhaps not for everyone as you have to have another car available for use, and mileage not to be more than 3500-7500 yearly.

One MAY be able to find comparable sales for more money than 'book', but that's a crap shoot.
 
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