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First mod on the list should be - shed unessecary weight before adding loads of extra weight from goodies!
Battery, front diff and drive shafts , rotors etc
I appreciate the input, and don't want to sound snarky, but I have 0 desire to do any weight reduction. This isn't a track car and I have the Z06 for that anyway. This is a HEAVY car and shaving off even a few hundred pounds wouldn't make much difference. This is a GT car. I'm mainly going for aesthetics and easy/cheap power. It would take a lot to get it even as fast as the Z06 stock, and mine is modded. I just want it to look and sound good and be a little faster if it can be done cheaply. Weight reduction is always really expensive or takes away from the function and/or aesthetics (e.g. removing passenger seat, removing sound dampening).
Originally Posted by tberg
Call Chris at Mina Galleries in Los Angeles. He often has parts that don't appear on his webpage or will make parts. I have gotten many for my XKR over the years.
SS4PK, here you go. I had it done in gloss black wrap, cost about $300. It has been on for maybe 18 months, no drama.
I love it and it would be the first thing I would do to a replacement though there were some on the forum who were not impressed at all. To be honest, I got it because I had a hard on for the db11 and the black flattens out the roofline and makes the car look a bit lower and meaner. Shout out to Dan for his contribution to the planning phase.
I appreciate the input, and don't want to sound snarky, but I have 0 desire to do any weight reduction. This isn't a track car and I have the Z06 for that anyway. This is a HEAVY car and shaving off even a few hundred pounds wouldn't make much difference. This is a GT car. I'm mainly going for aesthetics and easy/cheap power. It would take a lot to get it even as fast as the Z06 stock, and mine is modded. I just want it to look and sound good and be a little faster if it can be done cheaply. Weight reduction is always really expensive or takes away from the function and/or aesthetics (e.g. removing passenger seat, removing sound dampening).
It's where you lose the weight that is important. I agree that you aren't really going to notice the weight dropped from inside the car, but the unsprung weight will be noticeable. Wheels and rotors will give you two fold benefit: They look cool and return a real benefit.
I'm sure you're finding out that the aftermarket support for the car is pretty weak, especially when compared to the 'vette. In your position, here is what I would think would be up your alley.
Forged Wheels
Light weight rotors (cross drilled/slotted)
SVR fender scoops (whatever they are called)
Project 7 Grill
Splitter and diffuser are too personal. That's more of a your taste thing
Velocity AP exhaust
Supercharger pulley and tune
Having said this, I've done none of this to my own car. I'm to the point where I'm tired of chasing mods and fixing **** I broke by trying to improve the car.
Well, nothing is impossible. B is for Build put a Chevy LS engine and a manual Lambo trans in a Huracan, so it's definitely possible. I wouldn't be surprised if it's cost prohibitive, but I would consider a $10k bill 100% worth it
The problem is the initial trial and error time (which equals money). If you are having to pay for that shop time, it would be much more than $10k even though the parts won't be... If you know of a shop you could partner with where they get something out of the work aside from pay (i.e. the shop could then make and sell manual kits if there would be a market for it), then it might be something financially worth it to explore. However, the majority of F-Type buyers don't want a manual. Sales has already shown that.. Granted, it was the V6 and not the V8 but there wouldn't be much difference in the population ready and willing to pay for the conversion.
I'm not saying not to dream, but just putting some reality onto the conversation. As for the suspension, while air bags is not a common modification done to these cars (at least not by members on this forum), it would be like any other modern car so I'm sure any local suspension shop that does air bags installs would be able to figure it out if you really wanted it.
It's where you lose the weight that is important. I agree that you aren't really going to notice the weight dropped from inside the car, but the unsprung weight will be noticeable. Wheels and rotors will give you two fold benefit: They look cool and return a real benefit.
I'm sure you're finding out that the aftermarket support for the car is pretty weak, especially when compared to the 'vette. In your position, here is what I would think would be up your alley.
Forged Wheels
Light weight rotors (cross drilled/slotted)
SVR fender scoops (whatever they are called)
Project 7 Grill
Splitter and diffuser are too personal. That's more of a your taste thing
Velocity AP exhaust
Supercharger pulley and tune
Having said this, I've done none of this to my own car. I'm to the point where I'm tired of chasing mods and fixing **** I broke by trying to improve the car.
hundo p agree with you on unsprung weight. i'm not dropping the cheddar on forged wheels though. If i'm going to pay as much as $8k for wheels, I'm just going to spend a little more and get carbon fiber wheels. WAY lighter than forged and a set can be had for about $10k. They may not exist right now for the F Type, but I know a company that makes them and could get it done if I don't mind a few months lead time. Forged wheels are usually several weeks anyway. Flow formed wheels are the way to go to get the best bang for your buck, imo. I'm not sure what you mean by SVR fender scoops. Pic? I did consider the P7 grille, and am going back and forth on it, but that's a great suggestion and the kind of thing I'm looking for! Agreed that splitter/diffuser are personal preference, but I've found exactly ONE splitter for the R. If you even know of any others that exist, I would love some links as it might take me to even other options. I doubt I'm going to mess with the exhaust. The stock version sounds mean af in sport mode and I wouldn't want to get rid of the APP (or whatever Jag calls the ability to go between loud and quiet). SC pulley and tune are def on my radar. Would like to know what the popular options are. I found a tuner that supposedly give 71 hp, but that seems steep so I'm leery. https://www.racechip.us/shop/jaguar/...caAqCgEALw_wcB
The velocity exhaust maintains the happy button. You can still hit the same button to make it quiet provided you get the race/touring version. Roughly $2500.
As I'm sure you know, raw hp gains aren't even half the story. I always look at dyno curves to see where the real power gains are.
Oh nice. I didn't realize the SVR fender was different. Yeah I might have to pick those up! $2500 is a pricey exhaust, but about the same as Z06 exhaust. I never bought exhaust (aside from xpipe) for the Vette because of minimal gains and the stock exhaust sounds pretty great as well. I'll look into it, but I can't imagine it makes much in the way of power, raw or across the curve. Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong though!
The 'fender' is a piece that goes on top of the stock fender. I've seen write ups on it before and it looked like a straight forward install. Just a few connectors, from what I recall.
The exhaust doesn't net huge gains. It does make the sound even more aggressive and mean. Were I to go that route, it would be entirely for the sound and not the performance gain. For that, the s/c pulley and tune hit the mark.
Call Chris at Mina Galleries in Los Angeles. He often has parts that don't appear on his webpage or will make parts. I have gotten many for my XKR over the years.
Their website doesn't have hardly anything. I called them to see what they have. Talked to Chris. Super helpful guy. Unfortunately they really don't have a whole lot. Said he'd do some digging around for me though, so fingers crossed. Didn't look promising on the Lister front bumper though and dammit that's what I want the most!!
After looking around their site, they do have some cool CF options and I might pick some of those up down the road, but no splitter unfortunately. You guys are right, the aftermarket for this seems to suck ***! Not giving up though. If anyone has any other links or suggestions, I'm all ears, and I'll update this thread for posterity as I find options. Ali express was suggested to me. I suppose that makes sense as they have EVERYTHING. I've gotten anything from ping pong paddle rubber to recurve bow risers from there. And that is where I found the splitter I actually liked that was only for base models, so they probably have something.
I believe Unhingd asked SVO if they could put a manual in a V8. Memory is they said no, but I might have it wrong.
My dealer claimed SVO said yes they would, but the price would be over $200k. That was enough to rehinge me.
Either stuffing a V8 into the V6 MT or the Jag MT into the V8 is a no-go. The 425+ lb-ft of torque in my car already greatly exceeds the specified capacity of the ZF 6S-45 MT. The V8 would twist it into a pretzel. You’d have to figure out how to fit a Tremec and work out the programming. Certainly something SVO could do.
And not may bought MTs. That’s why they don’t make them anymore.
Tell me about it. There's a thread almost 400 pages long on the corvette forum discussing the C8 (newest gen corvette) not coming in manual and how that would affect sales and it's just 400 pages of die hard manual fans getting flamed on by DCT fans that think manuals are dinosaurs and the DCT fanboys getting flamed on by the die hard manual guys for having no soul, or whatever. I definitely don't want to turn this thread into that. I asked about doing a manual swap just to see if it had been done or could be. Sounds like it's cost prohibitive. Done deal. I would still like to get a tune though, and I'm hoping that in that tune, all of the automatic trans nannies that drive me up a ****ing wall can be removed and then at least I'll only be slightly dead inside for not being able to row my own gears. If anyone has any input on that tuner I linked a few posts up, I'd like to know about it as I'm quite skeptical that a tune will get me 70hp and 65 lb-ft torque. And still hoping someone out there knows how I can get the Lister front bumper/splitter or at least a decent splitter somewhere.
There are recent threads on here about Racechip, searching should find them.
Many of us have the VelocityAP tune, which takes the 340 or 380HP V6 to something like 415HP (450ish HP with lower pulley). Plenty of threads about it, including dyno plots.
There are recent threads on here about Racechip, searching should find them.
Many of us have the VelocityAP tune, which takes the 340 or 380HP V6 to something like 415HP (450ish HP with lower pulley). Plenty of threads about it, including dyno plots.
I probably just suck at searching, but while I do see a lot of threads that include racechip, most of them seem to be talking about it vs the VAP or difficulty of installation (which apparently is a pita for the R, so that's fun) and not so much about the gains specifically for the R. I feel like there's a lot more room for growth in the V6 but the V8 seems to be kinda tapped out, given its displacement. If it were a 6 liter instead of a 5 liter, then 70 hp wouldn't seem that crazy. And 380 to 415 is more than reasonable for a tune (and by reasonable, I mean it's not a ton of power so doesn't make me skeptical). 340 to 415 is pretty steep, but again, there's a lot of room for growth in a FI V6 with only 340hp.
I used to be a die hard manual fan, but maybe I got old....... I feel the same satisfaction flicking the sequential without the clutch leg stiffness.... Sim racing, same thing...
, rotors etc
