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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 04:16 PM
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I probably just suck at searching, but while I do see a lot of threads that include racechip, most of them seem to be talking about it vs the VAP or difficulty of installation (which apparently is a pita for the R, so that's fun) and not so much about the gains specifically for the R. I feel like there's a lot more room for growth in the V6 but the V8 seems to be kinda tapped out, given its displacement. If it were a 6 liter instead of a 5 liter, then 70 hp wouldn't seem that crazy. And 380 to 415 is more than reasonable for a tune (and by reasonable, I mean it's not a ton of power so doesn't make me skeptical). 340 to 415 is pretty steep, but again, there's a lot of room for growth in a FI V6 with only 340hp.
The Guilia Quadrifoglio puts out 505 HP from 2.9 litres, so if you apply the same ratio to the 5 litre you're up over 870. All theorhetical of course. Mechanical components may not even be able to handle that much power.
 
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And in S you can use the stick to shift, instead of the paddles ...
 
Old Jan 28, 2020 | 06:27 PM
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And in S you can use the stick to shift, instead of the paddles ...
Only in the RWD and the whole point of getting the F Type was to get an AWD for winter. Plus I think V6 exhaust note sounds just awful. The F Type V6 sounds better than most, but... lipstick on a pig. I almost bought an Audi S5 from 2008-2012 to keep a coupe V8 manual and get the AWD, but couldn't find the right one and they're pretty slow. Test drove a couple.

I digress. Point of this thread is to find mods for the F Type R. To go over the list again, I'm looking for front splitter, rear diffuser, some reliable info on tuning, CAI, and finally misc appearance mods for both interior and exterior. As a bonus, if anyone has aftermarket wheels, would love to see some pics to help me decide what wheels to get
 
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Only in the RWD and the whole point of getting the F Type was to get an AWD for winter. Plus I think V6 exhaust note sounds just awful. The F Type V6 sounds better than most, but... lipstick on a pig. I almost bought an Audi S5 from 2008-2012 to keep a coupe V8 manual and get the AWD, but couldn't find the right one and they're pretty slow. Test drove a couple.

I digress. Point of this thread is to find mods for the F Type R. To go over the list again, I'm looking for front splitter, rear diffuser, some reliable info on tuning, CAI, and finally misc appearance mods for both interior and exterior. As a bonus, if anyone has aftermarket wheels, would love to see some pics to help me decide what wheels to get
Are you sure about that?
I'm fairly sure that putting it in S mode (nudge the shifter over) enables sequential shift in all F-Types ever made, both RWD and AWD (excluding MT of course!).

 
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Are you sure about that?
I'm fairly sure that putting it in S mode (nudge the shifter over) enables sequential shift in all F-Types ever made, both RWD and AWD (excluding MT of course!).
I'm sure about that - I've definitely used the stick in my AWD to manually shift. I love it when people make definitive statements that are wrong!
 
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Originally Posted by OzXFR
Are you sure about that?
I'm fairly sure that putting it in S mode (nudge the shifter over) enables sequential shift in all F-Types ever made, both RWD and AWD (excluding MT of course!).
Putting it in S mode and using paddle shifters is NOT a manual transmission. WTF??

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I'm sure about that - I've definitely used the stick in my AWD to manually shift. I love it when people make definitive statements that are wrong!
Well everything I've read says you can only get a manual in the RWD S model. I don't care enough to do even further research as it's a moot point. I don't want an S, I want an R and even if I wanted an S, I have the R now and that's what I'm moving forward with. If I'm wrong. my apologies. Again, we're kinda derailing the thread here. Thread is about mods for the R. I'm painfully sorry I even inquired about converting to manual. Did not mean to open a can of worms.

EDIT: Ok, I reread all these and now I see what's going on. When you said "And in S you can use the stick to shift, instead of the paddles ..." I thought you mean in the F Type S, you have the option of buying it with a "stick shift" aka manual trans. THAT is what I was talking about in that you can only get that in manual, the RWD F Type S. I didn't realize you were talking about moving the AUTOMATIC stick to "S mode" and doing it that way. Yes, you can do that in any model, but that's a FAR cry from a manual trans. It's not even close. Anyway, let's move away from that topic, but I did want to put an edit in here and clear up the misunderstanding
 

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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 08:55 AM
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Toddiesel, everyone has their tastes and wants with cars. One person's likes is not any better than another person's likes. This is the internet so you are going to get many opinions and comments. Some you will like, some you won't. Just ignore what doesn't help get you where you want to be...

Having said that, IMO, while you "can" drive an AWD F-Type in the winter with winter tires, it's not something I would recommend. If you watch rally cars, they use tires that are more narrow for snow driving as compared to their dirt, gravel or tarmac stages. There is a reason for that. The F-Type may not have Corvette width tires, but they are larger than would be desired for snow driving. Denver, given the amount of snow they get, do a very good job of cleaning up roads but my recommendation would be to use something different for that type of weather even if it's not 500+ horsepower.

Good luck with your journey.

 
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Toddiesel, everyone has their tastes and wants with cars. One person's likes is not any better than another person's likes. This is the internet so you are going to get many opinions and comments. Some you will like, some you won't. Just ignore what doesn't help get you where you want to be...

Having said that, IMO, while you "can" drive an AWD F-Type in the winter with winter tires, it's not something I would recommend. If you watch rally cars, they use tires that are more narrow for snow driving as compared to their dirt, gravel or tarmac stages. There is a reason for that. The F-Type may not have Corvette width tires, but they are larger than would be desired for snow driving. Denver, given the amount of snow they get, do a very good job of cleaning up roads but my recommendation would be to use something different for that type of weather even if it's not 500+ horsepower.

Good luck with your journey.
Well that ship has sailed. F Type is in my garage with snow tires on it right now. And it did quite well in the light snow we had Monday, especially in weather mode. I did consider something like a STI, but I just wouldn't be happy with it. Too slow, too many doors, too many seats, and that 4 banger sounds like a pissed off bumble bee, not to mention it's a slug when it comes to power. So far, there have only been about 15 days I haven't been able to drive to work in the vette and a couple of those NO ONE has been able to drive (to speak of). It doesn't look like there will be many more before winter is over either. So if I'm going to get a car that will be driving on dry roads 330+ days a year, I want a car that I'm going to be happy with. If there were just a few days less snow a year, I wouldn't have even thought about a different car. In fact, I didn't intend to when I moved out here. In my interview I was like "look I've got a Z06. I've never driven in snow, even when I was stationed in Germany (lived on base and could walk) so if that's going to be an issue, I can't take this job" and they said "oh there will only be about 10 days a year you won't be able to drive and you can just work from home then" so I had 0 intention of getting rid of the vette. Turns out while they were mostly correct, those mild snow days where everyone else does come in, I was getting a lot of flak working from home those does, so rather than push back and say "look i told you bitches the deal", i decided not to alienate myself from my new employer and just bite the bullet. Anyway, bottom line is I do have a F Type R now in addition to the Z06 and will probably sell the Vette once spring comes around and just have the one car so that I can have more disposable income to mod the F Type, which doesn't seem terribly friendly to moding.
 
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I would recommend doing the Vap tune and pulley and sport cats for the best performance gain you should be around where The z06 Is in terms of straight line speed and even faster off the line due to Awd, adding the sports cats adds some noise but you can still control the active exhaust with the button. I’ve only seen one bagged F-type and it was a custom setup. There is another member (jordan F-type) who is looking to do bags but since he has a base v6 he does not have adaptive suspension to worry about I would get in contact with airlift and fine a local distributor and see if they are willing to make you a custom setup. The VAP tune gives you a lot of options such as controlling how much pops and bangs you have and with cat less you could easily shoot flames, depends if you have strict emissions testing where you are at, exterior carbon is a toss up, no one makes parts your best bet is going custom or eBay I’ve seen have splitters and diffusers. Congrats on the new car and post some photos and the spec you got! Btw unhinged is the resident expert here so I trust his advice and I believe the fastest car is the vengeance racing one for both S and u can talk to them. I think it’s running meth% good luck!
 
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Originally Posted by StormtrooperFtype
I would recommend doing the Vap tune and pulley and sport cats for the best performance gain you should be around where The z06 Is in terms of straight line speed and even faster off the line due to Awd, adding the sports cats adds some noise but you can still control the active exhaust with the button. I’ve only seen one bagged F-type and it was a custom setup. There is another member (jordan F-type) who is looking to do bags but since he has a base v6 he does not have adaptive suspension to worry about I would get in contact with airlift and fine a local distributor and see if they are willing to make you a custom setup. The VAP tune gives you a lot of options such as controlling how much pops and bangs you have and with cat less you could easily shoot flames, depends if you have strict emissions testing where you are at, exterior carbon is a toss up, no one makes parts your best bet is going custom or eBay I’ve seen have splitters and diffusers. Congrats on the new car and post some photos and the spec you got! Btw unhinged is the resident expert here so I trust his advice and I believe the fastest car is the vengeance racing one for both S and u can talk to them. I think it’s running meth% good luck!
Lot of good info there, thanks! I did reach out to an airlift vendor last week and he's supposed to get back to me by the end of the week. Good to know about the VAP tune. I did look at their site, so I'll follow up with that. I didn't realize there was adaptive suspension. I thought the dynamic mode only altered exhaust, trans shift points, and steering. I haven't noticed a different ride in dynamic mode, but if it's got magnetic suspension, I don't really want to mess with that, so I may just have to get coilovers and raise it in the winter and just do my best not to scrape in the summer. Once I get the new wheels in, I'll post some pics, but right now it's nothing special. Just a bone stock 2016 R in the dark grey metallic with silver wheels. Here are the only pics I have of it right now.


 
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The F-type suspension isn’t mag ride; Jaguar doesn’t sell enough units to justify the R&D cost of that kind of system. It’s just adaptive, with 2 position adjustable dampers.

As far as power mods go; I’ve got the second fastest 1/4 mile time documented on this site with a VAP tune, lower pulley and colder plugs. Anything beyond that isn’t going to have a huge effect on power as the vehicle sits now. The only guy to go faster had to port his supercharger and spray meth & nitrous to break into the 10s, which is probably more than you want to do. The issue is the Eaton R1900 supercharger is about maxed out; you’d really need to upgrade to the R2300 to see significant gains, and of course tune/fuel accordingly. But they don’t make a drop in unit and no one has ever tried a custom set up.

As far as Racechip goes; that is a piggy back controller that tricks the OEM tune to operate outside its normal parameters in effort to increase power. While this is a viable solution, it’s more dangerous than just editing the original tune in the OEM controller. The OEM tune is receiving modified inputs instead of real measured valves, which can cause issues if something happens.
 
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The F-type suspension isn’t mag ride; Jaguar doesn’t sell enough units to justify the R&D cost of that kind of system. It’s just adaptive, with 2 position adjustable dampers.

As far as power mods go; I’ve got the second fastest 1/4 mile time documented on this site with a VAP tune, lower pulley and colder plugs. Anything beyond that isn’t going to have a huge effect on power as the vehicle sits now. The only guy to go faster had to port his supercharger and spray meth & nitrous to break into the 10s, which is probably more than you want to do. The issue is the Eaton R1900 supercharger is about maxed out; you’d really need to upgrade to the R2300 to see significant gains, and of course tune/fuel accordingly. But they don’t make a drop in unit and no one has ever tried a custom set up.

As far as Racechip goes; that is a piggy back controller that tricks the OEM tune to operate outside its normal parameters in effort to increase power. While this is a viable solution, it’s more dangerous than just editing the original tune in the OEM controller. The OEM tune is receiving modified inputs instead of real measured valves, which can cause issues if something happens.
Oh ok. Makes sense about the suspension. Bit of a bummer about the 1320ft time. My Z06 is in the 10s and it's a manual trans RWD with minimal mods. But good to know expectations. Sounds like I need to write off the reacechip and focus on the velocity tune.
 
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Oh ok. Makes sense about the suspension. Bit of a bummer about the 1320ft time. My Z06 is in the 10s and it's a manual trans RWD with minimal mods. But good to know expectations. Sounds like I need to write off the reacechip and focus on the velocity tune.
The Z06 weighs like 500 lbs. less than the F-type, so that’s a big factor. Another issue is the fastest way down the track is to launch the Jag off idle; no brake torque at all. Despite the Z06 being manual, it probably launches better. Best I’ve done is a 1.67 60ft.
 
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
The Z06 weighs like 500 lbs. less than the F-type, so that’s a big factor. Another issue is the fastest way down the track is to launch the Jag off idle; no brake torque at all. Despite the Z06 being manual, it probably launches better. Best I’ve done is a 1.67 60ft.
Wow, yeah a 1.7 (basically) is pretty bad for AWD. I can get a 1.6 on a well prepped track with my R888Rs on the Z warmed up. On PSSs it's more like a 1.9 though.
 
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I know the front bumper of the base and the R are different, but do they have the same overall shape? I found this splitter and like it quite a bit, but it says it's for the base model. I've reached out to the vendor on both Amazon and Aliexpress and have gotten no response. Any help would be appreciated https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000303644041.html
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Originally Posted by Toddiesel
I know the front bumper of the base and the R are different, but do they have the same overall shape? I found this splitter and like it quite a bit, but it says it's for the base model. I've reached out to the vendor on both Amazon and Aliexpress and have gotten no response. Any help would be appreciated https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000303644041.html
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I Believe the only model that has a different front is the SVR. The bumper on the base and R are the same. The differences are the years. The first few years, there were vertical gills on the front side, then that switched to horizontal (somewhere around 17 or 18) and now I think the gills are gone.
 
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Originally Posted by eeeeek
I Believe the only model that has a different front is the SVR. The bumper on the base and R are the same. The differences are the years. The first few years, there were vertical gills on the front side, then that switched to horizontal (somewhere around 17 or 18) and now I think the gills are gone.
Well the bumper in that pic doesn't look like mine. It doesn't really look like an SVR either.

 
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The 400 Sport had a different splitter, and perhaps other parts too.
 
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The 400 Sport had a different splitter, and perhaps other parts too.
I actually haven't even heard of that model! Is that pic of a 400 sport? The listing on both amazon and aliexpress says it's for a "base" model
 



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