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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 09:41 AM
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Okay, yeah, probably not gonna work as well if you had gloss black wheels like we do ;-o
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 09:52 AM
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Okay, yeah, probably not gonna work as well if you had gloss black wheels like we do ;-o
Ceramic coating works fine on gloss black.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 09:54 AM
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Ceramic coating works fine on gloss black.
Sure, but you’ve got 2 people in the thread with gloss black wheels and ceramic saying the reality of the situation. You see easily everything with gloss black. That is less the case with wheels like yours, and I suspect that is the practical difference here.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DMeister
Sure, but you’ve got 2 people in the thread with gloss black wheels and ceramic saying the reality of the situation. You see easily everything with gloss black. That is less the case with wheels like yours, and I suspect that is the practical difference here.
Are you suggesting black wheels show dust more than silver? That's the opposite of reality.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CarlB
Are you suggesting black wheels show dust more than silver? That's the opposite of reality.
I am basically suggesting that…When you are talking about trace amounts after a cleaning, yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Gloss black is the hardest to get “perfect”. Yours would most definitely be a bit more forgiving in this regard. I’ve had both. I prefer a gloss black wheel but there is most definitely a bit of annoyance that comes along with that…I probably shouldn’t have black wheels from a practical standpoint, but I like em’ ;-0 lol

When both wheels are dirty prior to cleaning, well, a dirty wheel is a dirty wheel…They will both show dirt when dirty, no doubt.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DMeister
I am basically suggesting that…When you are talking about trace amounts after a cleaning, yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Gloss black is the hardest to get “perfect”. Yours would most definitely be a bit more forgiving in this regard. I’ve had both. I prefer a gloss black wheel but there is most definitely a bit of annoyance that comes along with that…I probably shouldn’t have black wheels from a practical standpoint, but I like em’ ;-0 lol

When both wheels are dirty prior to cleaning, well, a dirty wheel is a dirty wheel…They will both show dirt when dirty, no doubt.
Put great ceramic coating on them, AngelWax Nebula for example. Not the $20 stuff. We use it on my black, bronze, and silver wheels. Brake dust flies right off, there isn't leftover.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by CarlB
Put great ceramic coating on them, AngelWax Nebula for example. Not the $20 stuff. We use it on my black, bronze, and silver wheels. Brake dust flies right off, there isn't leftover.
Admittedly, I don’t have a ton of experience with different ceramics. I have Car Pro Dulux on mine. It’s supposed to be a good high temp wheel specific ceramic, but maybe this is the difference and it’s not up to snuff compared to some other options. Not entirely sure. I’ll consider this one you are mentioning next time. I’m due to re-ceramic the wheels in the spring.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CarlB
Put great ceramic coating on them, AngelWax Nebula for example. Not the $20 stuff. We use it on my black, bronze, and silver wheels. Brake dust flies right off, there isn't leftover.
I guess you are doing this type of work professionally, so that counts for something for sure.

Do you happen to directly have experience that would suggestion this Angelwax product is for sure superior to Dulux? Have you used Dulux?

Will that angelwax stand up to extra heat of the wheel/brake area? That is one of the claims to fame of Dulux and similar…How true it is, not sure ;-o
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DMeister
I guess you are doing this type of work professionally, so that counts for something for sure.

Do you happen to directly have experience that would suggestion this Angelwax product is for sure superior to Dulux? Have you used Dulux?

Will that angelwax stand up to extra heat of the wheel/brake area? That is one of the claims to fame of Dulux and similar…How true it is, not sure ;-o
Never used Dulux, but can tell you what happens with Angelwax on all of our wheels.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CarlB
Never used Dulux, but can tell you what happens with Angelwax on all of our wheels.
I see they have a wheel/caliper specific product as well:

https://angelwax.eu/en-ca/collection...aliper-coating

Doesn't sound like this is what you are referring to though.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DMeister
I see they have a wheel/caliper specific product as well:

https://angelwax.eu/en-ca/collection...aliper-coating

Doesn't sound like this is what you are referring to though.
We use Nebula. https://angelwax.eu/collections/cera...roducts/nebula
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CarlB
Is that a product that an average Joe like me can buy, or is this one of these things that is only purchasable by professional companies like yours?
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DMeister
Is that a product that an average Joe like me can buy, or is this one of these things that is only purchasable by professional companies like yours?
No idea, I just let the local place handle ceramic application.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CarlB
Are you suggesting black wheels show dust more than silver? That's the opposite of reality.
Yes, I have another car with silver rims and it is very different "effect". Silver looks kind of "dirty" like you expect, on gloss black it is fugly bronze, like rust looking greasy film. I have Nasiol NL272 coating. I cannot clean it even with commercial hand wash - I mean foam + pressure wash with abrasive. You have to wipe it mechanically. Then I can wipe it quite easily, but as I said it "sticks" like a grease.
However my other car can have a different pads compound so it might behave a bit differently.
 

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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 07:22 PM
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3 more days of OEM pads..le sigh


 
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Old Jul 29, 2025 | 08:08 PM
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The OEM dust was bad but my biggest complaint was initial grabbiness. The Porterfield R4-S are a great street pad with the caveat that if they are cold and really soaked with water, they become high-effort low-effect. That's such an infrequent occurrence for me that it's not a big deal. In torrential rain I apply a little brake evert few minutes to dry them off a bit. The pedal feel is so much better than stock I have not been tempted to go back.

Maybe I'll try EBC next, or maybe Dynamic Friction. I had not heard of them before, so they'd be worth at least a little research.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2025 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CarlB
No idea, I just let the local place handle ceramic application.
It’s what I thought. They only sell it to professional installers.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2025 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
The OEM dust was bad but my biggest complaint was initial grabbiness. The Porterfield R4-S are a great street pad with the caveat that if they are cold and really soaked with water, they become high-effort low-effect. That's such an infrequent occurrence for me that it's not a big deal. In torrential rain I apply a little brake evert few minutes to dry them off a bit. The pedal feel is so much better than stock I have not been tempted to go back.

Maybe I'll try EBC next, or maybe Dynamic Friction. I had not heard of them before, so they'd be worth at least a little research.
Is the high effort low effect thing including the intial time you use them, or is it a fade thing?
 
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Old Aug 29, 2025 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eeeeek
Is the high effort low effect thing including the intial time you use them, or is it a fade thing?
Sorry for the delayed response. For some reason this and three other messages showed up in my email, each repeated four times all in the same minute.

If the brakes are cold and really wet it's high effort and low effect until they dry, then back to normal. To get that wet it really needs to be torrential rain on the freeway for 15+ minutes. Even moderate rain doesn't do it. I've only experienced a handful of times but it got me to do a few seconds of brake dragging every five minutes or so when conditions merit it. I have felt the beginnings of fade from four or five hard applications (80-100 down to 25 or so) without a lot of cool-down, and suspect that I could get serious fade in a 20-minute session at Sonoma Raceway. I was starting to get fade there in 20 minute sessions with my 9-2x, which was about one third the power and half a ton lighter. I would not track the F-Type with these pads. Sears ... er ... Sonoma has some hard braking zones and not a lot of cool-down between. I would not want to be coming hot into 11 and find my brakes had already headed for the exit lane.
 
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