Hey folks, I've had my Jaguar SVR about 4 months now and use it as my daily driver. I've put about 6 thousand miles on it since purchased so now it has a total of 9300. Do I get an indicator light or something when it's time to change the oil? I looked online to see when it should be changed and the only thing I found was at 16,000 miles. Is that right? Seems like a lot to me but of course, I'm used to the old days of changing every 3,000 miles. Even my last car was about every 7 thousand so 16,000 seems crazy.

 

It is crazy. Go change your oil now, especially considering it is first oil change.

These ultra-long change intervals are related to calculating Californian lifetime emissions and are not designed with your engine longevity in mind.

 

Jode,
I just got my 2016 R back from the dealer and although the car is 2-years old and has 8200 miles on it, they told me an oil change was not yet due.



I could not confirm whether the first owner had the oil changed (I bought it at 5500 miles), and I assumed just the date alone would point to an oil change.
...but nooooo
It used to be that the initial oil change occurred earlier to clean-out any metal particles in the oil from the break-in period. Synthetics allow for much longer intervals between changes, but I still would expect the initial oil change to occur by at the most 6000 miles.

Like our BMW, I can't even pull an oil dipstick to look at and smell the oil to tell the condition.

I was also surprised seeing the recommended oil was 0-20 weight. I think the washer fluid is more viscous.

 

Hi Jode,
You sound like one happy driver.. , congrats with the car..

The other day I was playing around with the info menu on the steering wheel and ended up in a menu with oil interval.
My car did 7500km's sofar and it showed '..oil change due 10,500 km's.. ' ; way under the sceduled 26.000km's !

I suggest you get in your car and enter in the menu and look for what the cars says.. ..then call and make an appointment..

 

Get it in writing, because your engine warranty is voided by now. So you will have to find someone to blame for this if there is ever a problem. It is 1 year or miles driven, however both are unreasonably long if you have your engine longevity in mind.

Also, change your engine oil. If it is 2016 oil, filled at the factory, it could be more than 3 years old.

 

I believe changing oil right after break-in is well worthwhile and as oil is about the cheapest thing you will ever put in your car, I change mine much more regularly than recommended mileage.

My oil is full synthetic 100% from synthetic stock (same as the Castrol Jag. recommends) and I use 0W 30 Amsoil. And yes I did check with my dealer as well as the master mechanic that trains the dealer mechanics. The OW 20 does seem too thin and is no doubt used to help them meet fuel mileage requirements.

Lots of other opinions on this, but this has been my choice.. engine runs like a top 3+ years later as well.
Lawrence

 

 

Nope, its not mineral oil, but synthetic oil.. Anyway, everything in the universe is billions years old..

 

Oh, I think i read it has to be in the accessory mode to see oil life. ill do that today Thanks!

Jo

 

longer oil change intervals are a product of advancements in oil technology, not californian lifetime emissions or any other such thing. This is always a hot debate, and I agree that it just feels wrong to let oil go that long. Testing has shown though, that a 3,000 mile interval is a plain waste of money and oil. 10,000 on synthetic is just average. a quality synthetic can easily do a whole lot more than that, for much more than a year, without any degradation in its ability to properly lubricate your engine. If you're curious about the oil in your car, send a sample out for testing. it's not expensive, and it's very informative. I use https://www.blackstone-labs.com/ and have for years on my diesels.

If you want to change it out of an abundance of caution, definitely do that - it's your car and your money. That 2016 should still be under warranty with factory service included. Your dealer should be able to give you a lot better advice about proper oil changes. For my car (also a 2016) and my money, I'm more than fine with letting Jaguar dictate my service intervals. Blackstone independent testing backs up their claims.

 

 

I have always changed the oil on an annual basis on my weekend cars, ie Corvettes, AMG's, BMW's, etc. Sometimes that means changing with 1000 - 1500 miles on the clock, particularly when I owned two at a time. I will continue to do so with the F-Type. My DD is a 2017 Volt.

 

If your car is a 'seasonal' driver (stays mostly parked during winters), I recommend changing oil just before you put it away. This removes accumulated contaminants/acids that can etch the engine metals during its 'sleep'.

I've seen evidence of this etching on the metal dipsticks of my older cars.

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Speaking of dipsticks (no name calling! ), has anyone ever tried putting a wire (or similar indicator) down the extraction tube of the Jag engine oil filler, to see where the oil level registers when properly filled?

 

 

Find out your car's in-service date.
Then it's free oil changes at the dealer every year (12 months) on that month for 5 yrs.

On my latest Vette, it's 5 free oil changes at the dealer for first 24 months, with first one required at 500 miles. I had 5 oil changes within 2 yrs & 10K miles...

 

The consensus is to change at about 5K miles, then follow the factory recommended 16K miles or every year, whichever comes first. Some of us, myself included, have done used oil analysis to verify that this is acceptable. Modern manufacturing tolerances and modern oil technology have led to new guidelines. I do follow different guidelines for other vehicles though, but they're older and/or different.

 

lizzardo, I also run oil analysis. However, you need to be aware that it will not show you the entire picture. Like film strength degradation or fine carbon particulate content. 16K miles is not a reasonable oil change interval for a direct injection engine, especially if you ever push it.

 

I've been averaging 9K miles/year and have not yet tracked the car. The longest interval I have so far is 8500 miles, and the report was quite good. Looking at it again, I don't think I'd go 16K miles at the degradation rate I saw, but if I were doing 16K miles a year, my usage pattern would be different and probably not as hard on the oil. I sit in traffic far more than I like.

I've done some research, and think the combination of viscosity and remaining additive strength (TBN) should give a reasonable indication of the health of the oil, even if it is not directly measuring film strength. Carbon from the combustion chamber should be measured with "insolubles." Evidence to the contrary is welcome.

If I tracked the car I would certainly go to a "severe service" maintenance interval.

 

On your question of poking a dipstick down the oil extraction tube, the same question was asked a while ago on the XF forum.
Some ideas but no answer(s), if it is doable then it's gonna take a specially designed dipstick, see this thread: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...light=dipstick

 

Had my oil and filter changed at the dealer last week, out of warranty, cost me $115.
2014 V6S Convertible 8200 miles.
Cheap Preventative Maintenance!
I'll do it annually.