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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 11:31 AM
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Has anyone had issues with veepeak and torque pro?

My Torque pro worked fine with a cheap Bluetooth device in the ftype but I upgraded to veepeak ble+ and torque pro doesn't connect for long enough to talk to the ecu. It keeps disconnecting.

If I try it in our Ford then they work fine together, and using the free car scanner with veepeak in the ftype is fine, so not sure why torque pro, veepeak and ftype doesn't work?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Craaaazzy
And here’s my setup
Looks good. What phone and OBD2 dongle are you using?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2025 | 08:21 PM
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@Penfold. It may not make sense but make sure the veepeak is not initially connected to your phone - look for it in the BT menu in your phone and "forget" it. In the Torque Pro go to Settings > OBD2 Adapter Settings > Connection Type (choose BT) > BT Settings (choose adapter, may need to press "BLE SCAN" at bottom > then the next two switches should be on (Auto BT and Only If...). If this doesn't work keep Torque open then pair the veepeak in your phone's BT menu.

I am currently trying out this device to see if I can consolidate things further, as it will display any Android app on the screen (unlike Android Auto) and provide wireless Apple CarPlay:

https://www.linkifun.com/products/li...bient-lighting

 
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Old Jan 29, 2025 | 07:43 AM
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I have several OBD adapters and recommend the OBDLINK MX+. It is a bit expensive at around $140 and I do have much cheaper ones. I like that it auto powers up and down. Just seems to be a real solid device so far.




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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 07:25 AM
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Another sad story from the UK highlighting the need for aftermarket early warning detection:

https://www.ftypeforums.co.uk/viewto...=7777&start=20

What is especially concerning from this post is any fault in the two engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensors only registers a CEL on the second drive after being detected by the ECU.

Thanks to RPSN for the info:

Normally, if the coolant level in the reservoir drops below a certain amount you get a warning on the dash. However on your car the coolant level sensor blew out of the reservoir and as you’ve mentioned...“I received no dash errors (assume because the sensor wasn’t there).”

This is what it says in TOPIx...“If the coolant level in the expansion tank decreases below a predetermined value, the level sensor connects a ground to the instrument cluster which activates the appropriate warning.

With regards to the engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensors, it could be that the reason you didn’t see a temperature increase or get a warning on the dash is explained in the following information from TOPIx...

“The ECT sensors are NTC (negative temperature coefficient) thermistors that allow the Engine Control Module (ECM) to monitor the engine coolant temperature. There are two identical sensors installed which are identified as ECT 1 and ECT 2. Each sensor is secured with a twist-lock and latch mechanism and is sealed with an O-ring. A two pin electrical connector provides the interface between the sensor and the engine harness.

ECT 1 is installed in the heater manifold at the rear of the bank 1 cylinder head. The input from this sensor is used in calibration tables and by other systems. If there is an ECT 1 fault the ECM adopts an estimated coolant temperature. On the second consecutive trip with an ECT 1 fault the ECM illuminates the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp).

ECT 2 is installed in the lower hose connector which attaches to the bottom of the thermostat. The input from this sensor is used for OBD 2 diagnostics and, in conjunction with the input from ECT 1, to confirm that the thermostat is functional. If there is an ECT 2 fault the ECM illuminates the MIL on the second consecutive trip.”



 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by clubairth1
I have several OBD adapters and recommend the OBDLINK MX+. It is a bit expensive at around $140 and I do have much cheaper ones. I like that it auto powers up and down. Just seems to be a real solid device so far.




MX+ Adapter
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I agree. Use the same one.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2025 | 07:04 AM
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The above MX+ is the same one I have as well. No issues with it shutting down and this does not drain my battery (2015 R). As for the phone, it’s an old Lenovo phone I got back in Hong Kong years ago. I had no use for it so just repurposed it.
 
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Old May 30, 2025 | 04:11 PM
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The Veepeak OBDCheck BLE+plus drained my battery..had to do the disconnect/reboot thing. Just ordered the MX+ on Amazon...if it doesn't cause the battery issue...will be so happy on this end.

And, some good news, on my iphone I found a new app called Car Scanner. I paid 7.99 for a premium (no ads) version. I called my F type an F pace 3.0L SC (no F type option but f pace option). I could set up gauges and alarms (custom). AND IT SHOWED UP ON CARPLAY. I did not try doing it with waze at the same time....that...that would be magical. Gauges...map....in my 2016. Amazing.

The app saw oil temp, coolant temp, boost, tranny temp, and about 10,000 other things...saw all the JLR modules. It was pretty cool. The only issue I was using that first obd2 gadget and had to reset the battery....want to just have things works. Fingers cross the mx+ will save the day. (or I'll return it)
 

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Old May 31, 2025 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jcb-memphis
The Veepeak OBDCheck BLE+plus drained my battery..had to do the disconnect/reboot thing. Just ordered the MX+ on Amazon...if it doesn't cause the battery issue...will be so happy on this end.

And, some good news, on my iphone I found a new app called Car Scanner. I paid 7.99 for a premium (no ads) version. I called my F type an F pace 3.0L SC (no F type option but f pace option). I could set up gauges and alarms (custom). AND IT SHOWED UP ON CARPLAY. I did not try doing it with waze at the same time....that...that would be magical. Gauges...map....in my 2016. Amazing.

The app saw oil temp, coolant temp, boost, tranny temp, and about 10,000 other things...saw all the JLR modules. It was pretty cool. The only issue I was using that first obd2 gadget and had to reset the battery....want to just have things works. Fingers cross the mx+ will save the day. (or I'll return it)
I’ve got the MX+ and have no battery issues on my 2015 R.
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 06:32 AM
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I bought the MX+ hoping it would solve my battery drain issues, but it did not. Same issue as with a cheap adapter. I also bought the iCarsoft scan tool and it causes the same issue. I have to do a battery disconnect every time I use the OBD port. Seems to be more about the car and OEM software than the OBD dongle.
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 07:57 AM
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I'm guessing car software on the older cars also, or app, as I have no issues on my MY21.

I strangely never got the veepeak to work with torquepro on the ftype, so I'm using a really cheap obd dongle from China that I bought about 10-15 years ago and I've never had a problem, whether I remove the dongle or not.

Using torque pro to monitor temps, I have to use the Quit button or it continues to run in background and talk to the car. I leave the dongle in and hazard goes out as expected after locking. If I later open the app with car locked the hazard light comes back on, but as long as I quit it the light will go out again.

Didn't I read somewhere a post with a car software update to fix the battery drain? Can't see it now though
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 08:24 AM
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2 things @clubairth1 is this the pid pack Custom PIDs for Torque App - oil temp, oil level, trans temp, and more | Jaguar Forum
secong, I have found that no matter what dongle I use it is in exiting the application that makes the difference with how the system determines if it stays powered up or not. If you pull the plug or shut it down while running like they do at ins[ection stations I have to disconnect the battery. If I exit the application before removing the dongle or shutting down I have had no issues with battery drain. YMMV.
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 08:56 AM
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Yes that is one of the original threads from long time member and Jaguar expert Cambo. He posted to several Jaguar forums for awhile but now is so busy with his business OldJaguar.com that we don't see him much anymore. He does offer some cool stuff and it's well worth taking a look at. He is in Oz so shipping is a bit of a problem.
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Old May 31, 2025 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearhead01
I bought the MX+ hoping it would solve my battery drain issues, but it did not. Same issue as with a cheap adapter. I also bought the iCarsoft scan tool and it causes the same issue. I have to do a battery disconnect every time I use the OBD port. Seems to be more about the car and OEM software than the OBD dongle.

I just got the MX+ and had the same issue.

It left the red triangle on - just plugged in (not using the dongle at all). And so it goes back to amazon.


 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 02:27 PM
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The MX + will keep the red triangle on if you do not quit the Torgue app when you are leaving the car. In fact my car will wake up if I am near enough and open the Torque app with the dongle plugged in.
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RGPV6S
The MX + will keep the red triangle on if you do not quit the Torgue app when you are leaving the car. In fact my car will wake up if I am near enough and open the Torque app with the dongle plugged in.
Thanks.

Do you manual disconnect or turn off bluetooth or just quick the app and walk away (bt still connected, etc.)?

Am using an iphone. Current iOS. MX+ updated to current firmware. Jaguar is likely with what it got from the factory...
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jcb-memphis
Thanks.

Do you manual disconnect or turn off bluetooth or just quick the app and walk away (bt still connected, etc.)?

Am using an iphone. Current iOS. MX+ updated to current firmware. Jaguar is likely with what it got from the factory...

I manually close the app before I get out of the car on the android phone I use as a tablet for the app. I do unplug the MX + if I am not going to use the car for a few weeks because I am afraid I will forget it is there and break it off with my knee when I get back in. I don't touch the bluetooth settings on the phone.
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 05:55 PM
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@jcb-memphis Does the "Car Scanner" app for iOS have an audible alarm for temperature that interrupts music even if not on screen in CarPlay? If so that would be a great find.

Yes I drained my battery too when I left my phone near the car overnight with Torque Pro still running in the background. Red triangle was on all night, and I don't have the OBD2 drain issue.
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RGPV6S
The MX + will keep the red triangle on if you do not quit the Torgue app when you are leaving the car. In fact my car will wake up if I am near enough and open the Torque app with the dongle plugged in.
I seem to recall trying all combinations of shut-down procedures with my own car, only to have the red triangle remain illuminated in all instances.

The last thing (I believe) I tried was closing the app and completely powering down the device (old ish Android phone) before shutting off the car.

But, it's been long enough that I can't be sure that my memory isn't just playing tricks on me. So I guess I'll try it again this evening, just to be sure. The MX+ dongle has just been sitting in my glovebox for over a year.
 
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Old May 31, 2025 | 06:17 PM
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@Luc Lapierre Truly vexing!

@chasers03 and @s3yang have posted the solution - 4 updates to the RFA, GWM, IPC & BCM modules

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/f...2/#post2834921
 
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