Thank you for all the posts on this topic.. I have learned a lot... went to the Torque Wiki and it all looks rather painless. Looked at the OBD link MX and it doesn't look like it would get in the way. So here's a question. I have an older Android 8.0 phone that I'm wondering if I could use and just keep in the car for this analysis/reporting purpose. It's not my regular phone. It still connects to the house Fiber network and/or any LAN, but would not have call/text capability.

and JagCode3, thank you for your kindness and understanding!

 

That is just what I did. Bought a refurbished Samsung Galaxy A13 for ~$100 to use as a cheap android tablet. As long as you have Wifi (to download Torque) and bluetooth(to connect with OBD dongle) on it you should be fine.

 

Unfortunately that didn't work for me.

Here's what I did:

1. plug in obdlink
2. start car
3. turn on phone, open up Torque
4. close Torque
5. power off phone (for good measure)
6. turn off car

15 minutes after step 6 the hazard triangle remained illuminated 😕



PS I believe there's a faster way to check whether you have the battery drain. If you lock the car, the little orange door lock lights (see below) should turn off after about 30 seconds. However, if you're experiencing the battery drain, they will remain on indefinitely.




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Luc sorry it didn't work for you. Maybe my car is a special case because of its model year - 2014? I have never had an issue with the OBD port not letting the car sleep after use. Have to check out the door lock lights.

 

Are you still pleased with this setup? I'm early on in the research of finding ways to display gauges for my new ride (XFRS).

What parameters does this allow you to monitor? Looks like coolant temp is standard but I'm wondering about oil temp and other parameters. Thanks!

 

@John Coctostan I think this is the best looking solution, but it does not make a loud enough alarm noise to get my attention when music is playing. It was, however, nice to just get in the car and go without fiddling around, but...this is now my setup:

I replaced it with an Android phone running Torque Pro split screen with JBV1 with CSA paired to a V1 Gen2. I have the Torque Pro coolant and oil temp alarm set to flash at 220F and then a loud verbal warning with audible alarm at 230F. It will interrupt any music playing and get my attention quickly so I can pull over before the damage is done. JBV1 will announce laser and radar threats one mile ahead as well.

I have an inexpensive Veepeak OBD2 BT scanner with an on/off switch by my knee so it doesn't broadcast a BT signal while parked for battery drain and security purposes.

So there are some steps involved before driving the car (1-2 min), but worth it to avoid the permanent damage from overheating (many threads on the forum on the topic).

 

@JagCode3 Thanks so much for this info! Is the on/off switch integrated into your Veepak, or is it via some other piece of hardware?

After further research last night, I am leaning toward, because I have an iPhone, using the CarScanner app with an OBD2 scanner, like Veepak or Vgate. I’ve seen some OBD2 scanners that have a on/off button integrated onto the face of the dongle. EDIT: I think I see above you have the Autel on/off switch. Any pics of how/where you installed/mounted the switch?

I am finding it difficult to find out exactly which parameters would be available to monitor. I am most concerned about monitoring coolant temp and oil temp, and would love to be able to also trans fluid temp as well as others.

 

@John Coctostan I use the yellow cable in post #8 above. Since the cable has slack the Veepeak is tucked underneath the driver's side carpet of the center console, and the physical switch is secured near my knee, all hidden. Just gently pry off the lateral plastic trim from the front end to access these spots.

I am an iPhone user too, but there are no iOS OBD2 apps that show on the CarPlay screen and give audible and visual warning last time I checked. If anyone has found one please let us know! Torque Pro is the king here, but it's only for Android. I only have the coolant and oil temp displayed with large dials to stay focused on what's critical. When they flash at 220F (early warning) it gets my attention. I also like to see when the oil temp has risen enough from cold start to drive with abandon. There are custom Torque PIDs for Jag from @Cambo but I have not gotten those to work consistently:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/g...p-more-213503/

I have a Moto 5G 2024 Android phone (no SIM) tethered to my iPhone's hot spot for GPS accuracy. JBV1 is also Android-only. I run Waze on the head unit screen.

 

I have not seen this posted yet?

This is what I am monitoring with Torque Pro and the custom Jaguar PID pack.





I also use a cheap used Android 8" tablet. Not as slick as some displays shown above but big enough for me to read easy.
Alarms can be set as desired.

Note that on the 5.0L engine there is no oil pressure measurement from the factory of any kind! That kinda surprised me when I found that out.
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Thanks for the additional info. With the Shadow, were you able to monitor coolant and oil temps, or just coolant temp?

Yes, I think you are correct -- no iOS OBD2 apps that show on the CarPlay screen and give audible and visual warnings. I figure if I go the Vgate or Veepak OBD2 dongle w/ the Car Scanner Pro app, I'll just mount my iphone somewhere and use it show the gauge info. Previous owner installed a Joyeauto device that allows for Carplay on the OEM display and it has some wife and BT connectivity that may conflict with the Vgate/CarScanner Pro "solution". This is getting tricky!!!

 

I did not know that re: no oil pressure -- wow. Thanks for sharing that tidbit.

That's an awesome set of gauges. Do you have a pic of that setup in your vehicle?

 

Sorry no I don't and that's probably the biggest drawback. That display is just on an 8" Android tablet. I don't have it mounted in the car as I use it in the shop too. Mainly for checking transmission fluid temperatures on these ZF transmissions. As you can see I have a large rubber case (Why it's Aqua in color and not black I don't know? A fashion statement I guess) for the tablet and it has survived a number of drops onto the concrete at least so far. Used it was only about $80 so a disposable tablet.

Just to add to how flexible Torque Pro is I also found and downloaded a Mercedes/Chrysler PID pack. Sorry the pictures of the screen are a bit blurry.





But the best use in the shop is setting up a custom 1 gauge screen for transmission oil temperatures. Now I can place the tablet out of harms way (Hot transmission fluid plus the car has to be running as well) so the temperature is displayed in a large and easy to read size.





So I can sit in the car (MB 350 convert) and read the temperature while the engine is running. Then while under the lift I place it where it's convenient to read while scrambling around getting that fill plug in BEFORE the transmission fluid gets too hot!! This is common for me and then I need to wait hours for everything to cool down and I can start all over. So I try to get it right on the first try!
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@clubairth1 --- awesome info, thanks for sharing this. Love the thought of the big one trans temp gauge to help w/ ZF fluid change procedure.

 

Yea the whole mess of trying to balance aiming an IR gun on the dribbling hot fluid coming out of the fill port with the blazing hot exhaust inches from your head. ( I always wear leather gloves when doing this!). Then getting that small plug threaded back in with little room to do it!

With this all I need to worry about is waiting for the fluid to slow to a dribble at the right temperature range and getting the plug started.
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Here is my setup. I have a Scosche Magic Mount plugged into the lighter socket which also serves as a support for the Android phone. The iPhone is in a ProClip magsafe mount.

 

@JagCode3 Thank you!!! That's a good looking setup. I'm learning toward the Android phone Torque app solution.

 

Amen, brother! But, hey, don't you truly miss all that "excitement"?! LOL!

 

@JagCode3 Dumb question: you don't have to be wifi hot spot tethered to your iPhone in order for the Torque app to work on the Moto phone, correct? i.e. the Torque app simply works via BT from the Veepak to the Moto phone, yes?

 

@John Coctostan Not dumb, that's a great question - Torque (like JBV1) does have some GPS requirements that require WiFi, but it will still connect automatically and report the values from the OBD2 scanner via BT. But since you have an iPhone just tether it because the data usage is minimal for these apps.

If you play music I don't recommend the Shadow - the audio alert is not loud enough. I drove with the radio off to enjoy the engine noise for the first 2 years with the F-Type so the Shadow worked well. However after upgrading my stereo I always have music playing so needed something to overcome that.

@clubairth1 That's funny about the transmission temp gymnastics - When I changed the ZF fluid in my old A4 rather than get it to the exact temp I decided to just warm it up to where I wouldn't get burned. It worked out fine but what a mess, and the "cat ****" smell of the new fluid too lingered in my garage for a while!

 

And here’s my setup