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Old May 12, 2024 | 11:51 AM
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Looks like Paramount Performance x Viezu are unveiling their Predator II package on May 18th . My assumption is it’s their rendition of the TVS2300 or, less exciting, an e85 upgrade

They report 725 HP and 1000 NM, which would be the most powerful on the market.


Couple thoughts:
1. With the TVS 2300 capable of more power; I wonder if this is the limit on an otherwise stock platform.

2. With VAP offering additional upgrades rods, pistons, head and main stud kits, and looking into fueling upgrades, I’m assuming they will be pushing the platform harder. Hopefully, they let us out of the dark soon

Either way, it’s an exciting time to be jaguar owner.

 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 12:11 PM
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PREDATOR 2
Unveiling on May 18th, 2024.



FROM VIEZU TECHNOLOGIES
THE MOST EXCITING JAGUAR PERFORMANCE PACKAGE IN YEARS


Join us on 18th May at Supercharged Saturday where we will unveil our MOST POWERFUL Jaguar upgrade package ever.


Location: British Motor Museum


This is a ticketed event. Find out more and purchase your event ticket, contact VIEZU.


Attend Event
FROM VIEZU TECHNOLOGIES
Register Interest Now
Paramount Performance is very well known in the company of Jaguar owners as the place to go to achieve high-end performance upgrades.



VIEZU Technologies developed vehicle tuning software offers the very latest in engine performance upgrades.


Combined VIEZU and Paramount have developed the Fastest F-Type in the world !



As a consumer, it's very very important for me to know where the product / item is manufactured. If the parts are made in Europe that's fantastic. If any vendor supplies parts for my car that are made in Asia I'm not interested.
The question is, where do the upgrade parts come from, WHO MADE THEM AND WHERE WERE THEY MADE.. This applies to Paramount /VIEZU and also for VAP.
 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 03:31 PM
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Any power above & beyond the stock is useless in my opinion without suspension upgrades. Unfortunately, no good options for F-types.
 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 03:47 PM
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Any power above & beyond the stock is useless in my opinion without suspension upgrades. Unfortunately, no good options for F-types.

Do you feel the same for a typical single or dual pulley uphrade with software upgrade to jack up the HP.


Let's see what the company will release in a few days.
 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Turko
Do you feel the same for a typical single or dual pulley uphrade with software upgrade to jack up the HP.
Short Answer = Yes.

I've been pushing my stock R hard on mountain roads with twists, curves, and uneven surfaces, but I've noticed that at high speeds, even slight bumps make me feel like I'm catching air instead of staying planted on the road. I thought stiffer springs would solve the problem, but after learning more about the suspension system, I realized this wasn't the case. Another user in a forum suggested keeping the dynamic suspension at 'normal', which has helped somewhat. Hence, adding more power to this vehicle will exacerbate the issue and make you feel less confident, especially on twisty and curvy roads. If you plan to primarily drive on straight, even roads, then tuning the vehicle might be worth it. But if you'll be pushing the tuned power on uneven surfaces (which is all of NJ & NY), an upgrade to the suspension (and brakes) would be necessary. Unfortunately, there aren't many good suspension options available.

I've grown to love and appreciate the F-Type stock even more for its amazing GT capabilities, with sports performance as a secondary bonus :-)
 
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Knowing the manufacturer is critical because it gives you an indication of the quality of the product and its durability.
 

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Your points well taken.

Let's see what's released by Paramount.
 
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Old May 12, 2024 | 08:35 PM
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They are way behind a youngster ricky is running low 10,s with 800+ horspower in a XF PUTTING EVERYONE TO SHAME ,WITH BASIC STUFF DONE BY HIMSELF



 

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Originally Posted by JagFR
Short Answer = Yes.

I've been pushing my stock R hard on mountain roads with twists, curves, and uneven surfaces, but I've noticed that at high speeds, even slight bumps make me feel like I'm catching air instead of staying planted on the road. I thought stiffer springs would solve the problem, but after learning more about the suspension system, I realized this wasn't the case. Another user in a forum suggested keeping the dynamic suspension at 'normal', which has helped somewhat. Hence, adding more power to this vehicle will exacerbate the issue and make you feel less confident, especially on twisty and curvy roads. If you plan to primarily drive on straight, even roads, then tuning the vehicle might be worth it. But if you'll be pushing the tuned power on uneven surfaces (which is all of NJ & NY), an upgrade to the suspension (and brakes) would be necessary. Unfortunately, there aren't many good suspension options available.

I've grown to love and appreciate the F-Type stock even more for its amazing GT capabilities, with sports performance as a secondary bonus :-)
I pushed my AWD R VAP Stg2 pretty hard on twisties in VA (stock suspension, PS 4S tires) and while I felt the “catching air” sensation over bumps, I never felt like I was loosing control. Maybe the SVR suspension solves the issue for you?
 
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Old May 14, 2024 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ftype_rick
I pushed my AWD R VAP Stg2 pretty hard on twisties in VA (stock suspension, PS 4S tires) and while I felt the “catching air” sensation over bumps, I never felt like I was loosing control. Maybe the SVR suspension solves the issue for you?
This car is amazing because it keeps you in control, even when things get a little wild. When I catch air, I instinctively ease off the gas pedal for a split second, reacting to feeling less confident. I might do the opposite in a different sports car and press harder on the gas due to overconfidence. It's not a big deal since I'm not racing.

The SVR suspension is an excellent concept in theory but challenging to implement in practice due to the complexity of the parts and software involved. Upgrading from the R to the SVR (at an additional cost of $15-$20k) would probably be the same or even less expensive. Modifying with good aftermarket options would have been cheaper (around $5-$7k, including parts and labor).

I've made peace with it, and I love my car the way it is. It's the perfect GT for long drives, offering comfort and performance.
 
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Originally Posted by JagFR
This car is amazing because it keeps you in control, even when things get a little wild. When I catch air, I instinctively ease off the gas pedal for a split second, reacting to feeling less confident. I might do the opposite in a different sports car and press harder on the gas due to overconfidence. It's not a big deal since I'm not racing.

The SVR suspension is an excellent concept in theory but challenging to implement in practice due to the complexity of the parts and software involved. Upgrading from the R to the SVR (at an additional cost of $15-$20k) would probably be the same or even less expensive. Modifying with good aftermarket options would have been cheaper (around $5-$7k, including parts and labor).

I've made peace with it, and I love my car the way it is. It's the perfect GT for long drives, offering comfort and performance.
To confirm, you do or do not have progressive rate springs? (i.e., from VAP). If you don’t, I’m wondering if that might help fix the issue. Curious to hear others’ thoughts too. I planned to purchase a set this month before settling on a basement bar instead.
 
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Old May 14, 2024 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ftype_rick
To confirm, you do or do not have progressive rate springs? (i.e., from VAP). If you don’t, I’m wondering if that might help fix the issue. Curious to hear others’ thoughts too. I planned to purchase a set this month before settling on a basement bar instead.
I do not. Others can speak for it and provide comparison.

From what I've learned, that alone will not make it better (stiffness could worsen the air feeling). There is plenty of material on this forum you can find regarding suspension and lowering springs.
 
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Old May 14, 2024 | 04:52 PM
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Is it not an important factor to know about the part you intend on installing on your British made car. Am I the only one who wants to know where the part comes from. Where was it made. I personally believe any part that comes from China is of poor quality because it is made at a low price in order to appeal to the consumer. Quality and durability however is then sacrificed. If the seller personally is not manufacturing the part for the car, then this seller is simply the middleman between the manufacturer and the consumer. The only quality auto parts manufacturer in Asia is Japan in my humble opinion. Some of the best quality aftermarket wheel rims come from Japan.
 

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i personally dont care, in our houses we have products from all over the world some are good some are bad ,for me personally what ever works .Works
 
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A home toaster is one thing, it works for 6 months it breaks you throw it away and get another one, no big deal.
Auto parts for high performance sports cars is an entirely different matter in my opinion.
Chinese-made auto parts are inferior because vendors who acquire the automotive parts from China, prioritize lower costs over quality and durability. The price point is critical for the consumer's appeal. Chinese auto part products typically lack high accuracy and high quality that European and US customers require and demand.
China's manufacturing sector is more cost-effective than other countries due to mass low wage workers, cheaper than other countries. Quality is directly proportional to the price offered. Simply, you get what you pay for and its all about individual choices.
 
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Old May 15, 2024 | 04:37 AM
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I guess you don't use any of the 75% of hi-tech chips that are produced world wide in Taiwan then?
 
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I guess you don't use any of the 75% of hi-tech chips that are produced world wide in Taiwan then?

Chips are made in Taiwan, yes. I know. Taiwan, Japan do made reliable auto parts. China equals poor/substandard quality. This is common knowledge. It's all about personal choices.
 

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Originally Posted by Turko
Chips are made in Taiwan, yes. I know. Taiwan, Japan do made reliable auto parts. China equals poor/substandard quality. This is common knowledge. It's all about personal choices.
This is going to come as a surprise to you, but a lot of OEM parts come from China. That goes for every brand. I used to work for a certain German manufacturer who praises the high quality of the materials used in their interiors. German made? No. Leather from Italy maybe? No. Produced in Mexico.

The Chinese are no exception, they can manufacture high quality parts also, and do, but the customer has to spec it that way. Having frequent/thorough QC checks is also a good idea.
 
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Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
This is going to come as a surprise to you, but a lot of OEM parts come from China. That goes for every brand. I used to work for a certain German manufacturer who praises the high quality of the materials used in their interiors. German made? No. Leather from Italy maybe? No. Produced in Mexico.

The Chinese are no exception, they can manufacture high quality parts also, and do, but the customer has to spec it that way. Having frequent/thorough QC checks is also a good idea.
Agree fully, regarding the quality control aspect, engineering and building to the highest standards, when manufacturing the product. This is absolutely critical!
 

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Old May 15, 2024 | 11:54 AM
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I do not doubt what you said for a second. What you are describing is however a minority scenario because the bulk of product exported from China is low end in order to appeal to the consumer having a acceptable price point.
Thus far, the mass items being produced in China are not top-notch premium quality parts and in this case we're talking about automobile car parts.

Also, If I had the option of acquiring/purchasing a car part which is steel or aluminum, I would much rather purchase knowing it's made in the United States, UK or another part of Europe, Germany. Chinese steel is not as good as American, British or German steel.
 
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