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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 06:56 AM
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The ‘15R is only as dangerous as the loose nut behind the wheel.
Unfortunately, too many people view the throttle as an on/off switch.
I have only found turbocharged throttle input to be unpredictable and dangerous.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
The ‘15R is only as dangerous as the loose nut behind the wheel.
Unfortunately, too many people view the throttle as an on/off switch.
I have only found turbocharged throttle input to be unpredictable and dangerous.
Absolutely.

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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 01:18 PM
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I had my 15R out this morning and tried to get it loose on the new MP4S tires and was unable to get the car to break free. But boy was it fun trying.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 01:28 PM
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[/QUOTE] This is the rawest Jag ever!! Dont be proud of the AWD.
In the end less than 50 RWD FType R Jags were purchased in America total. That's why I bought it.[/QUOTE]

if this is true....I will never get get of mine !
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tp10xkr
i had my 15r out this morning and tried to get it loose on the new mp4s tires and was unable to get the car to break free. But boy was it fun trying.
brother, you didn't try hard enough!!!!🤣
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 02:00 PM
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This is the rawest Jag ever!! Dont be proud of the AWD.
In the end less than 50 RWD FType R Jags were purchased in America total. That's why I bought it.[/QUOTE]

if this is true....I will never get get of mine ![/QUOTE]
ITS TRUE. I THINK 22,000 WERE PURCHASED IN THE US.
THERE WERE 800 FTYPE'S WERE R'S OUT OF 22,000.
OUT OF THE 800, 50 RWD WERE PURCHASED IN AMERICA AND THEN THE AWD ARRIVED. DEFINITELY KEEP YOUR CAR....SOL
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by solomonvery
This is the rawest Jag ever!! Dont be proud of the AWD.
In the end less than 50 RWD FType R Jags were purchased in America total. That's why I bought it.
if this is true....I will never get get of mine ![/QUOTE]
ITS TRUE. I THINK 22,000 WERE PURCHASED IN THE US.
800 FTYPE'S WERE R'S OUT OF 22,000.
OUT OF THE 800, 50 RWD WERE PURCHASED IN AMERICA AND THEN THE AWD ARRIVED. DEFINITELY KEEP YOUR CAR....SOL[/QUOTE]
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by solomonvery
if this is true....i will never get get of mine !

its true. I think 22,000 were purchased in the us.
800 ftype's were r's out of 22,000.
Out of the 800, 50 rwd were purchased in america and then the awd arrived. Definitely keep your car....sol[/quote][/quote]
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 02:08 PM
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Do the research. You'll see.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 03:51 PM
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Is it really that rare? There are around 20 listed on cargurus alone and another 20 on truecar and cars.com, assuming 10 of them are the same car, that is 30 in the market.

But a google search reveals that 4,112 F Types were sold in US in 2014, im assuming these are 2015 model year, including all trims of coupe and convertibles, so 50 R coupes would be 5% of total F Types sold that year, a lot of assumptions, but sounds about right now.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray Ray
Is it really that rare? There are around 20 listed on cargurus alone and another 20 on truecar and cars.com, assuming 10 of them are the same car, that is 30 in the market.
There are currently 301 F-Type Rs listed for sale on autotrader.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by racerx
there are currently 301 f-type rs listed for sale on autotrader.
this is correct..... Only around 800 were r's within those two years. (153,000 corvettes were sold within the same timegrame.)
if my number is off, it's not by that much. Definitely less than 100 rwd ftype r's were purchased in america total not worldwide.
In 2016 jag launched the awd....
The ftype has very nice models without purchasing an *r*. Alot of the buyers didnt splurge 110,ooo$ for the r, so the rest of the 22,000 that were sold were p300 p380 s models.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by racerx
there are currently 301 f-type rs listed for sale on autotrader.
remember, i am only referencing the rwd r.
There are alot of awd r's for sale.

How often do you see an ftype at all?
I see 2 every 3 months and im in atlanta.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by solomonvery
its true. I think 22,000 were purchased in the us.
800 ftype's were r's out of 22,000.
Out of the 800, 50 rwd were purchased in america and then the awd arrived. Definitely keep your car....sol
I have owned 2 separate 2015 RWD F-Type R Coupes . and have been a member of this forum since march of 2014 when the coupe was first introduced in the US. based on the number of 2015 R owners on this form at the time plus the number of R's I personally saw on the three dealer lots I visited... I am quite certain there were more than 50 sold in Southern California alone.
Not sure of your source for this claim but its highly suspicious.

Regarding the OP's question, the RWD definitely takes more focus to keep headed in a straight line, though one quickly learns the torque vector braking and other nannies certainly step in to help... albeit not before some drivers panic and/or reaction time have already got off the throttle. I would generalize the driver consensus of the RWD vs AWD in this fashion. AWD's are considered easier to control and keep the vehicle more reliably planted, especially for the casual sports car owner or less experienced driver. Those who have experienced both versions first hand claim the RWD is more beastly FUN to drive, in a wicked sort of way, especially once you learn to rely on the electronic nannies, which will keep you off the K-rail and out of the weeds in most circumstances. For this reason, some would say the RWD has a tad more bad-cat spirit than the AWD.
 

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Old Apr 17, 2020 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by IronMike
I have owned 2 separate 2015 RWD F-Type R Coupes . and have been a member of this forum since march of 2014 when the coupe was first introduced in the US. based on the number of 2015 R owners on this form at the time plus the number of R's I personally saw on the three dealer lots I visited... I am quite certain there were more than 50 sold in Southern California alone.
Not sure of your source for this claim but its highly suspicious.

Regarding the OP's question, the RWD definitely takes more focus to keep headed in a straight line, though one quickly learns the torque vector braking and other nannies certainly step in to help... albeit not before some drivers panic and/or reaction time have already got off the throttle. I would generalize the driver consensus of the RWD vs AWD in this fashion. AWD's are considered easier to control and keep the vehicle more reliably planted, especially for the casual sports car owner or less experienced driver. Those who have experienced both versions first hand claim the RWD is more beastly FUN to drive, in a wicked sort of way, especially once you learn to rely on the electronic nannies, which will keep you off the K-rail and out of the weeds in most circumstances. For this reason, some would say the RWD has a tad more bad-cat spirit than the AWD.
The information is good. Just Google for the data.
5 years of AWD R's, 1 1/2 years of RWD, a 1yr model. Around 800 R's sold in the US total between 14-16. Remember, the Coupe increased sales by 50%. Before the Coupe, sales weren't nearly as high.
Keyword- Less than 100 (50-99) RWD Ftype R's were sold total in US. Blame Jaguar for the improvments.🤫
if the number is less than 1000, that is still low. That makes the RWD R the Ftype Emperor. LoL
It checks out. Please let us know if you discover differently.
Thanks brother!! Sol
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Old Apr 18, 2020 | 10:55 PM
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I researched the stats on production data for the RWD F-Type R's for a youtube video I made. The numbers I found suggested that there was less than a 1000 2015 RWD R's for sure and although there was not an exact number.. it is somewhere between 500-800 2015 RWD R's total in America. Still Very low considering a few have undoubtedly crashed lol
 
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Old Apr 18, 2020 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
I have only found turbocharged throttle input to be unpredictable and dangerous.
Not even on every car. Boosted subbies are OK, you just need to remember its coming, and with AWD front will pull you through anyways.
 
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Old Apr 18, 2020 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SinF
Not even on every car. Boosted subbies are OK, you just need to remember its coming, and with AWD front will pull you through anyways.
I was a subbie many moons ago but I was never boosted.
As in subcontractor in the building trade, specifically plasterboard (wot you Yanks call drywall).
Now subies, as in Subarus, that's a different kettle of fish altogether!
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by conbrash
I researched the stats on production data for the RWD F-Type R's for a youtube video I made. The numbers I found suggested that there was less than a 1000 2015 RWD R's for sure and although there was not an exact number.. it is somewhere between 500-800 2015 RWD R's total in America. Still Very low considering a few have undoubtedly crashed lol
Nice!!! Thanks for the data. 😃
 
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Old Apr 20, 2020 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Unhingd
The ‘15R is only as dangerous as the loose nut behind the wheel.
Unfortunately, too many people view the throttle as an on/off switch.
I have only found turbocharged throttle input to be unpredictable and dangerous.
I thought that the 5 litre XKR was a bit of a handful and behaved more like a turbo. Put your foot down and the response wasnt instant, it would build up a bit then kick you in the ****. But I think that was probably more the gearing with the 6 speed ZF - the 8 speed is much better and probably the most noticeable difference going from the XKR to the F Type.

The p300 engine we have in the XE behaves more like a supercharged engine - zero lag, zero surge, linear and strong acceleration from 0 to I dont want to say. I think it is more direct than the 340hp 6. But that is a twin turbo rather than the single turbo used in the 240hp version of that engine.

But I'm not disagreeing with you, for the most part what you say is very true, though I would add that I think transmission settings can ruin what would otherwise be a decent engine.
 
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