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Old 08-29-2016, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Stohlen
Couldn't sell the damn things.
I think I can authoritatively state this isn't because of RWD or V10.
 
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Originally Posted by no401k
It all depends what you want. You don't see them making a viper with AWD so it crash less lol. AWD adds a bit of weight too. So it all depends what you are looking for
Agreed; I'm not saying AWD is necessarily a bad thing but;

- the whole "RWD V8 F types are out of control" comments are way overblown IMO. You'd think there were no 500hp+ cars made in RWD when the opposite is true. I run mine with the traction control off and even with the stock crappy tires, I don't have any issues. ....maybe it's 'cause I'm old and remember driving fast cars before there were any "nannies". Add a set of PSS's if you are concerned.

- The AWD system adds about 175 lbs and some unknown additional driveline losses....which eat into the extra 40hp the R model tune gives them explaining why testing shows them closer than you'd otherwise think.

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Old 08-30-2016, 12:08 PM
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I've been driving BMW RWDs for over a decade and had nothing, but understeer. The F-Type with it's super short wheelbase has massive oversteer and I feel a huge difference in steering. I can imagine how wild it would be without AWD with my driving style. I'm a very aggressive driver and I drive these cars like it's meant to be.
 
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Old 08-30-2016, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Kim
I've been driving BMW RWDs for over a decade and had nothing, but understeer. The F-Type with it's super short wheelbase has massive oversteer and I feel a huge difference in steering. I can imagine how wild it would be without AWD with my driving style. I'm a very aggressive driver and I drive these cars like it's meant to be.
Well you are right different drivetrain handles differently. For your style the AWD is probably better. For those of us going into RWD we just need to be aware of its characteristic, and not drive it like a AWD lol

 
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That top gear test is horrible and those guys can't drive.

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Originally Posted by Lawrence Kim
I've been driving BMW RWDs for over a decade and had nothing, but understeer. The F-Type with it's super short wheelbase has massive oversteer and I feel a huge difference in steering. I can imagine how wild it would be without AWD with my driving style. I'm a very aggressive driver and I drive these cars like it's meant to be.
Despite that, a good driver can and does do well on the track with the RWD F type.....including the P7 but yes, different chassis' behave differently. Some people would have you believe that the RWD V8 F type is uncontrollable which is a load of BS IMO.

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Old 08-30-2016, 12:42 PM
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Laguna Seca (post 1988) lap times - FastestLaps.com

.... Randy Pobst seems to have no trouble with the "barely controllable" V8S! ;-)

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Old 08-30-2016, 01:46 PM
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I think the proper term for the RWD is 'wild' not 'out of control'
Wild could be fun, but being new to the Jag fam AWD gives me a little peace of mind
 
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Old 08-30-2016, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Kim
I think the proper term for the RWD is 'wild' not 'out of control'
Wild could be fun, but being new to the Jag fam AWD gives me a little peace of mind
...fair enough.

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Old 08-30-2016, 09:57 PM
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Well crap...I'm bummed that the V8S only comes in a vert! I want a RWD coupe and I didn't know that only leaves me with a 2015 R as an option.


I have a Viper now and it has no nanny systems at all so I think I can manage a RWD R. People say the same thing about Vipers...that they're hard to handle...dangerous...etc. etc.. It's not a problem as long as you aren't stupid.... You don't want to get on the gas when you're not pointed in a straight line. LOL
 
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As has been said, 100% software. For $1000 tune you can add 80BHP, still on factory (SVR/Project 7) settings. I'd be blown away if you ever had a warranty denial on that basis. What an embarrassment that would be for the manufacturer!

A little further and we can go to 605 with a tune, and around 630-640 with sport cats & pulley.
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
As has been said, 100% software. For $1000 tune you can add 80BHP, still on factory (SVR/Project 7) settings. I'd be blown away if you ever had a warranty denial on that basis. What an embarrassment that would be for the manufacturer!

A little further and we can go to 605 with a tune, and around 630-640 with sport cats & pulley.
....We may have to chat at some point! ...too bad you are 25 minutes drive from my house! ....soooo far! LOL

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Originally Posted by DPelletier
....We may have to chat at some point! ...too bad you are 25 minutes drive from my house! ....soooo far! LOL

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Dave, call me. 250-460-1775

Maybe we can talk to you about headers etc. I want to get this development work done, my friend with the 'R' is tough to pin down.

Might be something mutually beneficial there.
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
Dave, call me. 250-460-1775

Maybe we can talk to you about headers etc. I want to get this development work done, my friend with the 'R' is tough to pin down.

Might be something mutually beneficial there.
Dave, please consider. You'd be doing a big favor for a lot of us.
 
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Yes do it Dave! I'm sure Stuart will work a good deal with you. There are a lot of us on here waiting patiently for some good headers to be made.
 
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Any thoughts on the RWD V8 holding value better compared the rest of the line up as the cars age?
 
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I had no real desire for engine modifications, particularly hardware changes, at this juncture but in the interest of helping the collective, I will call Stuart when I have a moment to discuss what he's looking for.

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Hi guys,
This is a quote from another member who posted pics of a cutaway F Type.

" The 550 hp V8 was mechanically a computer programmed detuned 650 hp engine. "
R Coupe can be 650 HP !
 

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great info... many thanks!

is there any recommendations in terms of how to find a qualified tuner to make the V8 S jump to the R package 550 hp?
 
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Originally Posted by pjr300
great info... many thanks!

is there any recommendations in terms of how to find a qualified tuner to make the V8 S jump to the R package 550 hp?
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