Before buying my first Jag ('11 XF Supercharged), I read all the threads for that vehicle. Was also following BMW and Audi forums in effort to decide what to buy. Nothing I read on XF was worse than other two brands and in fact problems seemed less significant. I.kept the XF for 4 years, 26k before I traded it for F type. I don't expect this car to be worse, but hopefully better than Audi or BMW. Porsche likely has all beat, but not scientific based evidence. 5 year warranty doesn't hurt either. I will likely buy extended warranty before this one expires.

F type issues to date at 4400k.

Stereo rattle, muddled, etc.
Battery died after first week. Recharged by dealer under warranty.
Door seal seems to let water in when washing car. Not reported to dealer yet.

As someone else said, it's two early to really know if you haven't put some miles on the car. Out of warranty is bigger concern, years from now.

 

Possibly consider taking the car to the dealer and having a good clear discussion with them about this issue of the battery along with the other issues... no way a car should continually discharge ... I can leave mine sit for a month and it starts right up.

I only put a tender on late in the fall, hooked up under the hood on the charge ports, and take it off in the spring .. otherwise not needed.

The dealer manager should jump all over this and certainly Jaguar corporate would get involved if you are not satisfied.

My Jaguars have all been good, however an aquintance of mine blew his engine.. it was his fault, yet Jaguar still replaced it... I ordered the spare tire and thought I would also receive the tire repair kit.. the kit was not supposed to come as well, so I suggested they make it clearer in the advertising.. they surprised me with a free kit, so my experience with them has been good.
Lawrence

 

Out of warranty is a big concern; I don't like to change cars often [aka lease]. I like cars that last and are timeless. This is why I also own a 67 Fastback Mustang - it's timeless and can always be rebuilt to new or better.

With Jaguars it seems they are short-term cars; which is disheartening.

 

I don't believe they are any different than other luxury makes.

 

It's easy to recalibrate the windows so auto up/down works again. It's in the manual; perhaps Lance can post the info once again.

 

Precisely...and some of the responders to the OP have been monitoring this forum for the entire production life of this car (over 3 years).

 

Per Dave's suggestion, the windows can be reset with the following instructions:

WINDOW RESET

The windows will need to be reset if the battery is disconnected, becomes discharged, or the power supply is interrupted. Once the power supply is restored, reset the windows as follows:

1. Close the window fully, and release the switch.
2. Lift the switch to the close position, and hold for 2 seconds.
3. Repeat this process a total of 5 times.
Test the window, to check that one-touch operation is working correctly. Repeat the process for the remaining window.

This is on page 160 of the owners manual.

 

Did you miss a few steps, or has the procedure changed? Here's what is in my MY2014 manual...


1. Close the window fully.
2. Release the switch, then lift it to the close position and hold for 2 seconds.
3. Open the window fully.
4. Release the switch, then push it to the open position and hold for 2 seconds.
5. Lift and release the switch to operate the one-touch function.
6. Repeat the procedure on each window.

 

Dave,
Copy and pasted. Must be different for the different model years.

 

I've had my S-type for over ten years. Easily the most reliable car I've ever owned.

If the F-types turn out to be half as good in the long term, it'd still be an excellent car.

 

+1. I'll probably expire before my F-Type does.

 

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Jag still has electrical issues. I will never buy a Jaguar again.[/QUOTE]

Your particular car might have an undiagnosed battery drain, but if you do not drive it very regularly, or if you do only short runs, then you will have battery issues and random electrical gremlins. This is not a Jaguar thing; it is common to most modern high-end cars that are given this sort of use. The proof? Every luxury marque: Bentley, Maserati, Jaguar, Mercedes, BMW, Audi,...market battery maintainers made by companies like CTEK, but with their own name on them. Why? Because all of these cars need full battery voltage all the time.
Solutions, assuming no cause is found for your battery drain: make sure your car is locked so that the computers shut down quickly. If it is unlocked there are systems running for a half hour or so. Keep the fob away from the car, preferably in a drawer - otherwise there will be battery drain. And use a CTEK battery maintainer, permanently mounted, and operated when the car is not in use. Result? No electrical issues. This also works for Bentleys, Maseratis, Audis....you get the point. If you doubt any of this, check the XK list.
But, as I said, your particular car may have a problem. Modern Jaguars, however, have proven to be amazingly reliable and well engineered compared to their rivals.

 

My mom-in-laws new hubby has a Vette and he adores it (one won't judge one's opinions), but he says every time he goes to drive it, it's dead. Your point is fair.

As to "Reliability", does anyone know if there is a "most reliable cars" that doesn't include electrical? Electrical is notorious as what "dings" reliability ratings, and the more luxury the car is, the more electrical systems are at play. Consumer Reports has a "do not buy" for the Tesla S, mainly for this reason.

Is there anyway to understand reliability of the car itself, vs the electrical?

I realized typing this... electrical is no longer "dome light". It's so deeply integrated to operations, that this would be vital to assessing the quality of the car.....

Hmm... I guess my '95 Wrangler is so reliable because no power windows or power door locks, etc. It's broken down once, when the engine blew up and I rebuilt it. I ran out of gas a few times, it didn't hurt the fuel pump. I left the dome light on, and had to charge it a bunch throughout it's lifetime. But reliability is somewhat subjective, and it likely about expectations... nicer the car, the higher they are.

I wonder if Toyota Yaris or Nissan Versa people are talking about this stuff on forums. =)

 

Almost 3 years (K01100) and oxygen sensor and oil pan leak only problems. Nothing but routine service. I scraped rear 1/4 on garage and this was a bigger issue than anything else. Had paint chips but repaired but appears to be happening again.

 

Seems to be hit and miss going by the threads I see; some people have a lot of issues and others are intermittent.

 

And the vast majority have none.

 

...agreed and the majority of issues from those that have them are very minor in nature IMO....and some aren't issues at all.

Dave

 

And the vast majority of the "issues" come down to low battery voltage - they are non-issues to an informed owner who ensures that his battery is always fully charged.
Speaking from personal experience, in 5 years of ownership of my XK I have not had a single "issue" - nothing. These XKs are amazingly reliable cars....if you want to know about a rival with issues, check out the Mercedes SL550, now those are ISSUES in capital letters!

 

My car was delivered to me with low battery warning but otherwise fully operational. I daily drive it (well among other cars, but it is favorite for now) and have no battery issues. Maybe I should count my blessings, but I think some owners here need to spend more time with their mechanical mistress so she doesn't feel neglected.

 

There's a wonderful joke about the internet....

the only reason the internet loves cats so much is that dog people are outside playing with their dogs.

A review site, or forum like this, is not going to be a scientific sampling of an audience. It's completely anecdotal, and it's most like people that are overly thrilled with their car, or just the peeved people with minor issues and problems.

An added thought is that the people with problems have nothing to do but commiserate about them, online... while other people are out driving their car and enjoying life.

I just lost my car for two days for annual 16K first year service (I overdrove to 16,700 OH NOOooo!). No problems, but they took care of everything I mentioned, including seat stops to prevent the seat hitting the bulkhead, and the fuel filler neck was changed out, as well. All under warranty.

So now we're drilling down into what "reliability" means. Releasing the car with the wrong parts for the clutch such that it *could* blow up and leave you stranded.... that is a serious reliability issue. But seats damaging the bulkhead, fuel filler issues.... these are all privileged people problems, and don't really have anything to do with reliability.

So what I'm saying is this.... if you are a happy person this car probably doesn't have any problems, even when it does. If you are a tightly wound person with high expectations, this car probably has problems even if it doesn't.

It takes all types to make the world go round, but without confirmation bias and selective perception, this car is undoubtedly excellent and has no more, or less, problems than any other performance vehicle. This isn't like Tesla's X design issues, or VW's Diesel recall. This is a superb car that is relatively new and doesn't seem to have any red flags overall, other than anecdotal annoyances of people that miss their car during minor services.