F-Type ( X152 ) 2014 - Onwards

V6 F-Type Performance Upgrades?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 06:02 AM
  #21  
Loucini's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 23
Likes: 1
From: California
Default

Not to sound like a cheap *******, but the local dealership stated the price of the F-type V8s at 57,000$. I felt like that's kind of high for a car with 27,000 miles, 2014, V8s, Orange. Any thoughts? Full specs as listed:

- Jaguar F-Type V8s
- Exterior Color: Orange
- Interior Color: Black
Packages
- Black Pack 3
- 20" Cyclone Wheel
- Climate Pack
- Extended Leather Pack
- Vision Pack 3
- Performance Pack V8 S
- Premium Pack 3
- DPCK (Idek wtf that is)
- Meridian Premium Audi
- HD Radio & SIRIUS Satellite Radio
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 04:23 PM
  #22  
Misujerr's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 915
Likes: 100
From: SF Bay Area, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Loucini
Here's an advice for anyone having the same issue: IF you really want to like the V6, don't ever test drive or let alone start up the V8. It'll only make it impossible to stay with the V6.
Good thing I didn't then! Phew...
Also coming from a V8 AMG Benz...
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 05:17 PM
  #23  
lizzardo's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,931
Likes: 1,301
From: Northern California
Default

Originally Posted by Loucini
Here's an advice for anyone having the same issue: IF you really want to like the V6, don't ever test drive or let alone start up the V8. It'll only make it impossible to stay with the V6.
I did not find this to be the case, but I also really wanted a manual transmission.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 05:28 PM
  #24  
BruceTheQuail's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 4,109
Likes: 1,396
From: Gold Coast, Oz
Default

I'd come out of the V8 XKR, bought the V6S, later drove the F Type R AWD on the track. I can honestly (and thankfully) say that I prefer the V6 to drive. It feels a lot lighter at the front end. That isnt everyone's cuppa, though the instructor also thought that the V6S was the most balanced on the track and the best to drive.

To tell you the truth, the car I thought was the best to drive on the track out of the performance Jags was also the slowest - the XE S, but I think that is essentially like saying that a 5 year old would prefer to read Dr Seuss' "The cat in the hat" than Salman Rushdie's "the Satanic Verses".
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 07:19 PM
  #25  
Loucini's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Junior Member
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 23
Likes: 1
From: California
Default

Originally Posted by lizzardo
I did not find this to be the case, but I also really wanted a manual transmission.
Maybe its the fact I'm more of a speed demon and like the intense Rush more than the enjoyment. However if I could opt for a manual V8, it'd be in a heartbeat. Just cant imagine the manual V6 with the limited power it offers. Although the manual is more involving, intriguing, and interesting, I just much rather have the raw power the V8 jags offer.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 07:31 PM
  #26  
BigCat09's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 362
From: Orlando, Florida
Default

IF the V6 wasn't a 6 piston V8 I bet it would be much more fun.
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 07:40 PM
  #27  
Unhingd's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 16,948
Likes: 4,727
From: Maryland, US
Default

Originally Posted by Loucini
Just cant imagine the manual V6 with the limited power it offers.
Try the V6 Manual with a pulley and tune. That offers the rush and enjoyment (not just the shifting but the lighter feel through the corners as well).
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 08:28 PM
  #28  
stmcknig's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 284
From: Austin TX
Default

Coming from a tuned up 5.0L V8 XFR I admit I was a little disappointed in how much stirring the go pedal was needed in the V6S. However a number of reviews said the V6 may have been lacking in raw power but was generally felt to be more nimble. Even Clarkson on Top Gear said he didn't at any time feel it needed the V8, but that might be partly gas prices in UK talking.

I agree with Unhingd, the VAP Tune on my V6 has turned it into a whole other Hyde. I'm no longer pining for the V8 at a $20K difference...
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2017 | 09:00 PM
  #29  
OzXFR's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 9,016
Likes: 3,657
From: Adelaide, South Australia
Default

Yep, I finally got the VAP tune installed a few days ago and now my V6S goes like the clappers! Much more responsive with less "lag" than before.
Can't wait to get the larger crank pulley next, although it may be a few months away yet.
All that said, it still doesn't quite match my tuned XFR once the speed gets over about 70 mph, where the XFR just pulls and pulls like a 14 YO. IMHO the AJ133 S/C motor is a classic, pity it's not much longer for this world.
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2017 | 12:07 AM
  #30  
lizzardo's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 3,931
Likes: 1,301
From: Northern California
Default

We have some delightfully twisty roads here where 70 mph is a rarity; even some where it's just an impossibility. There are others where a bit better 70-120 acceleration would add to the thrill, but I try to restrain myself to double-digit speeds.

There are times I wish I had the V8, but more often I am glad I don't have the extra weight in the nose and enjoy shifting for myself.
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2017 | 01:32 AM
  #31  
Arne's Avatar
Veteran Member
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 340
From: Oslo, Norway
Default

Won't the added weight of the awd (which I would think comes in mostly at the front?) cause the same "heavy nose" feel in the awd V6 vs the rwd V6?


I think an awd V6S weight about the same as a rwd V8?
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2017 | 03:04 AM
  #32  
Unhingd's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 16,948
Likes: 4,727
From: Maryland, US
Default

Originally Posted by Arne
Won't the added weight of the awd (which I would think comes in mostly at the front?) cause the same "heavy nose" feel in the awd V6 vs the rwd V6?
It does. The AWD V6 does feel heavier and the steering feels less responsive.
 
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2019 | 11:01 AM
  #33  
Kenneth Low's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: singapore
Default

Originally Posted by Unhingd
I am getting 450hp @ 6200rm and 438 lb-ft of torque @ 3900rpm from the V6. That's within just fractions of equaling the power to weight ratio of a V8S. The performance is in a whole different league than the OEM V6S. I'll hook up the data logger tomorrow and see if I can get a valid 0-60 time. The only reason to wring this much out of the V6 is if you are an old-school gear grinder. If I enjoyed driving the AT, I would have definitely opted for the V8 instead.
Hi there, after the upgrade from velocity ap. Have you recorded 0-60 time.
 
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2019 | 11:16 AM
  #34  
RickyJay52's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 3,468
Likes: 1,800
From: Northeast
Default

Originally Posted by Kenneth Low
Hi there, after the upgrade from velocity ap. Have you recorded 0-60 time.
While you are answering Mr. Low, Unhingd, please do tell us your 0-150 time as well.
 
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2019 | 05:14 PM
  #35  
Unhingd's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 16,948
Likes: 4,727
From: Maryland, US
Default

Originally Posted by Kenneth Low
Hi there, after the upgrade from velocity ap. Have you recorded 0-60 time.
Haven’t had it to a drag strip yet. Maybe this summer. Given the change in tire sizes, a data logger wouldn’t offer an apples to apples comparison. I’ll also be severely handicapped by the obsolete transmission control module.

0-150 times are only relevant in Maine.
 
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2019 | 05:35 PM
  #36  
Luc Lapierre's Avatar
Senior Member
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2018
Posts: 520
Likes: 248
From: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Default

I’ll also be severely handicapped by the obsolete transmission control module.
I'd be interested to know any performance metrics, improved by your upgrades, and that aren't affected by transmission type.
 
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2019 | 08:27 PM
  #37  
StormtrooperFtype's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 341
Likes: 73
From: South Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Loucini
Hi, I've yet to purchase an F-Type due to indecisive manners. But im a fan of low end torque. I want to purchase the V8 F-Type but I don't know if I can tip in the 60,000-80,000 I see them for in the '14-'17 ones. (Basically all of them). I'm considering the V6 S but has anyone done any reasonable performance upgrades on their V6 F-Type to produce high lowend torque or maybe something that pushes the 0-60 into the high 3s or low 4s ? (3.8 - 4.2)?i just basically would appreciate a vehicle that would send me flying back into my seats like the V8 would. I'll never track the vehicle so just accelerating it on the highway or from stoplight to stoplight sounds content enough for me. The idea of a F-Type in the 5s or high 4s as indicated by Jaguar just sounds unreasonable for me due to the price of the vehicle...

p.s this vehicle will be kept throughout my life if that matters.

Personally My AWD v6s is underpowered, I came from an Infiniti q50 Redsport, with 400 horsepower and the lack of power is one thing that bothers with me with the F-type, their is not many curves in Florida mainly highways and I use all of the 380, and get left behind easily, granted I do drive quickly.
 
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2019 | 08:49 PM
  #38  
OzXFR's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 9,016
Likes: 3,657
From: Adelaide, South Australia
Default

Originally Posted by StormtrooperFtype
Personally My AWD v6s is underpowered, I came from an Infiniti q50 Redsport, with 400 horsepower and the lack of power is one thing that bothers with me with the F-type, their is not many curves in Florida mainly highways and I use all of the 380, and get left behind easily, granted I do drive quickly.
Simple solution, get the larger crank pulley and tune from VAP like Lance and I have done (although I have the Eurotoys pulley and Lance has the same, but exact same result), takes it to 450 bhp.
I have commented before on this but my F-Type now feels quicker to me than my tuned XFR ever did (same 550 PS tune as the F-Type R) throughout the speed and rev range. Just bum dyno, no actual measurements mind you, I put it down to the lower weight of the F-Type and the better gearbox (ZF 8 speed vs ZF 6 speed).
 
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2019 | 08:23 AM
  #39  
StormtrooperFtype's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 341
Likes: 73
From: South Florida
Default

Originally Posted by OzXFR
Simple solution, get the larger crank pulley and tune from VAP like Lance and I have done (although I have the Eurotoys pulley and Lance has the same, but exact same result), takes it to 450 bhp.
I have commented before on this but my F-Type now feels quicker to me than my tuned XFR ever did (same 550 PS tune as the F-Type R) throughout the speed and rev range. Just bum dyno, no actual measurements mind you, I put it down to the lower weight of the F-Type and the better gearbox (ZF 8 speed vs ZF 6 speed).

I don't want to void my warranty, Its come in handy, payed out over 15,000 in my 7 months of ownership. If it wasn't for that, I would have decat pipes, exhaust, pulley, tune and ported my blower.
 
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2019 | 09:08 AM
  #40  
Unhingd's Avatar
Veteran Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 16,948
Likes: 4,727
From: Maryland, US
Default

Originally Posted by StormtrooperFtype
Personally My AWD v6s is underpowered, I came from an Infiniti q50 Redsport, with 400 horsepower and the lack of power is one thing that bothers with me with the F-type, their is not many curves in Florida mainly highways and I use all of the 380, and get left behind easily, granted I do drive quickly.
It is unfortunate, but the 380 AWD even feels a bit sluggish vs the OEM 380 RWD due to its heavier weight and additional drivetrain losses. As Oz has mentioned, the tune and pulley are the best solution, particularly now that the initial quality issues on your car have been resolved under warranty. It'll turn it into a totally different experience.
 

Last edited by Unhingd; Jun 25, 2019 at 09:11 AM.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:03 PM.