Split Politics from Off Topic?
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Split Politics from Off Topic?
Has there been any thought to removing politics from the off topic section?
Perhaps giving it a section of its own. I drop in to the off topic looking for a laugh and end up getting sucked into American Politics.
It's not unique to this forum either. I own a few different vehicles and some of the forums have either stopped political conversations completely or moved them to a dark corner where the rest of us don't stumble across racist comments.
Or possibly just ban me as that's where we are headed. Good thing the Jag runs like a Swiss watch at the moment.
As always, thanks for your hard work and effort.
Perhaps giving it a section of its own. I drop in to the off topic looking for a laugh and end up getting sucked into American Politics.
It's not unique to this forum either. I own a few different vehicles and some of the forums have either stopped political conversations completely or moved them to a dark corner where the rest of us don't stumble across racist comments.
Or possibly just ban me as that's where we are headed. Good thing the Jag runs like a Swiss watch at the moment.
As always, thanks for your hard work and effort.
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Maybe I am one of those weird people.
However one does not have to read any "Off Topic" thread or reply to any post.
It is down to self discipline.
American politics affects the whole world so it is an important subject to be sure.
It is very difficult to maintain self discipline when you have posters that insist that black is white and white is black no matter what evidence is presented however that is what sets you apart from them.
You could choose not to respond to such posts.
However one does not have to read any "Off Topic" thread or reply to any post.
It is down to self discipline.
American politics affects the whole world so it is an important subject to be sure.
It is very difficult to maintain self discipline when you have posters that insist that black is white and white is black no matter what evidence is presented however that is what sets you apart from them.
You could choose not to respond to such posts.
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Tend to agree with Fulton.
Generally politics just tends to trash the otherwise friendly ambiance of JF.
Usually not a fan of banning things , but there are approximately a zillion places to drone on about politics either in fight clubs or echo chambers and everything in between. There are a very limited number of friendly Jag oriented sites.
Generally politics just tends to trash the otherwise friendly ambiance of JF.
Usually not a fan of banning things , but there are approximately a zillion places to drone on about politics either in fight clubs or echo chambers and everything in between. There are a very limited number of friendly Jag oriented sites.
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Personally, I enjoy it and can segregate it from Jag-talk...but that's just me. I live in 'politically mixed' family and work environments so I'm accustomed to these things
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DD
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From an outsiders point of view I find it quite interesting and even funny at times how diametrically opposed some people are on the same subject.
Having said that I see that a certain Mr Liddel has been appointed to a prominent position (chief of Staff?) in the toy house so I suppose I had better watch my P’s and Q’s from now on.
Having said that I see that a certain Mr Liddel has been appointed to a prominent position (chief of Staff?) in the toy house so I suppose I had better watch my P’s and Q’s from now on.
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It's annoying.
I like the 'Official thread about nothing' because it used to be amusing and I felt that I could contribute.
Now it's just a few guys banging on about current and ex Presidents.
Please start a 'Political' forum and then those who chose to can bang on happily and the rest can just skip it completely if they want to.
Or may be I'll start one called 'Things that are happening on the rest of the planet' like the casual use of neurotoxins in public places.
Bring back the funny stuff on the Official Thread About Nothing pages!
Vote for me, I'll fix it, whatever it is!
I like the 'Official thread about nothing' because it used to be amusing and I felt that I could contribute.
Now it's just a few guys banging on about current and ex Presidents.
Please start a 'Political' forum and then those who chose to can bang on happily and the rest can just skip it completely if they want to.
Or may be I'll start one called 'Things that are happening on the rest of the planet' like the casual use of neurotoxins in public places.
Bring back the funny stuff on the Official Thread About Nothing pages!
Vote for me, I'll fix it, whatever it is!
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Interesting.
Other than the single 'Thank you' from o1xjr, not a single response to my post on this thread.
Some very amusing posts on The Official Thread About Nothing which are much appreciated but no posts about Politics.
So where do they all go to now?
Or, is my work here just done?
Or, should I just stop poking it with a stick>
Other than the single 'Thank you' from o1xjr, not a single response to my post on this thread.
Some very amusing posts on The Official Thread About Nothing which are much appreciated but no posts about Politics.
So where do they all go to now?
Or, is my work here just done?
Or, should I just stop poking it with a stick>
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What amuses me is the presumption (breathtaking!) that all the rest of us in the real world are even interested in American (or any other) national politics.
I too vote to have all political comment automatically siphoned off to a totally separate forum . . . not as a form of censorship . . . just to allow us to focus on the fun and friendship of sharing our Jaguar ownership rather than being subjected to politically opinionated (and sometimes rather aggressive) debate.
In the meantime, I find that a regular holiday away from the model specific JaguarForums gives me a sense of refreshing perspective. I sense I am not alone in placing a far higher value on our regional forums. Expanding our Australian regions some 4 years ago was the best thing that happened here and is reflected in our membership growth and ongoing local meets.
Cheers,
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I too vote to have all political comment automatically siphoned off to a totally separate forum . . . not as a form of censorship . . . just to allow us to focus on the fun and friendship of sharing our Jaguar ownership rather than being subjected to politically opinionated (and sometimes rather aggressive) debate.
In the meantime, I find that a regular holiday away from the model specific JaguarForums gives me a sense of refreshing perspective. I sense I am not alone in placing a far higher value on our regional forums. Expanding our Australian regions some 4 years ago was the best thing that happened here and is reflected in our membership growth and ongoing local meets.
Cheers,
Ken
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Speaking for myself, I make no such presumption, I assure you ! Not at all. I'm confident that most people are *not* interested.
My presumption is that those interested in the topic (be it politics, SU carburetors, or rear wheel bearings) will open the thread and read the comments...and perhaps join in. Those not interested, won't.
I too vote to have all political comment automatically siphoned off to a totally separate forum . . . not as a form of censorship . . . just to allow us to focus on the fun and friendship of sharing our Jaguar ownership rather than being subjected to politically opinionated (and sometimes rather aggressive) debate.
I have no objections to such a change, personally. However, a person is subjected to only the threads he personally decides to open and read. If you're not interested in politics (or SU carburetors) then, simply, don't read threads involving politics (or SU carburetors)
Cheers
DD
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Sorry, but Doug, I think you have misunderstood what I, Fulton and others have noted and commented upon . . .
I have no objection whatsoever to threads on either politics (or SU carbies) that clearly present their intended topic. As you rightly say, members can read / contribute / ignore as they wish. No issues with that.
What Fulton raised, and I and others have agreed, is the hijacking of threads, whether those intended to be purely humorous as cited by Fulton, or within the technical forums as I cited. This is not confined to political comment.
If it is frustrating for a member's search for a solution, and carefully assembled advice from a range of contributors, suddenly diverted by a newcomer who thinks their somewhat similar symptoms warrant discussion or opinion . . . I am suggesting it is far more objectionable to see such a discussion wandering into a debate of national politics in what is an international, car specific forum.
Just my 2c Doug; no pistols at dawn stuff . . . too much respect and too little energy.
Cheers & best wishes,
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I have no objection whatsoever to threads on either politics (or SU carbies) that clearly present their intended topic. As you rightly say, members can read / contribute / ignore as they wish. No issues with that.
What Fulton raised, and I and others have agreed, is the hijacking of threads, whether those intended to be purely humorous as cited by Fulton, or within the technical forums as I cited. This is not confined to political comment.
If it is frustrating for a member's search for a solution, and carefully assembled advice from a range of contributors, suddenly diverted by a newcomer who thinks their somewhat similar symptoms warrant discussion or opinion . . . I am suggesting it is far more objectionable to see such a discussion wandering into a debate of national politics in what is an international, car specific forum.
Just my 2c Doug; no pistols at dawn stuff . . . too much respect and too little energy.
Cheers & best wishes,
Ken
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Ahhh, yes, hijacking. Different matter. And I agree with you!
Just my 2c Doug; no pistols at dawn stuff . . . too much respect and too little energy.
All's well
Cheers
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