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Old Nov 15, 2024 | 04:28 PM
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HI to alls
Is it possible to mount a Jaguar S-type wooden dashboard on a Jaguar MK2 ?
If yes, would you have photos and guides
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Old Nov 15, 2024 | 04:47 PM
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I have an S Type and I think it would be possible. The facia is the same size and the wood is only held in place with the gauges and switches, not screwed on. I think the facia from the S Type is different as the hinges are different so I don't think you could just take the copper facia from the S Type and put it on to the Mk2 but taking the wooden front and using it on the Mk2 facia should not be a problem. I have several spares of differing conditions that I could send you if you want to try to see if it will fit?
 
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Old Nov 15, 2024 | 07:23 PM
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Yes, this has been done.
Check out this Youtube video. Gary has done a complete series on the restoration of his Mk2 and video 77 in the series (of 360 and counting) shows the S-Type wood on the Mk2 center panel.
Gary is not for sensitive ears but there is a lot of good stuff in his videos. His channel is called Jagvette1.
I do like the look!
 
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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 06:48 AM
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Thank you cdg66mk2

I understand that it's fairly easy to cover the central dashboard of the Jaguar Mk2 with the wood trim from the Jaguar S-Type.
However, I'm not sure if it's possible to fit the other three S-Type parts onto the Mk2: the screen rail capping assembly and the two facia board assemblies (cubby and counters).
These parts have different shapes and dimensions between MK2 and S-type.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 07:01 AM
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Some of the details of the bulkhead and heater ducting and operation are different and may need some working around. But, as Cass often writes about updates and upgrades, at some point why not simply buy the car that you are updating towards? After all, with the S type, there's an IRS thrown in for free.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 07:10 AM
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There's also the loss of the originality of the car.
Upgrades of brakes and suspension are acceptable but changing the instrumentation and dash wood just doesn't seem right.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 08:08 AM
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Hi to alls
I have a new question concerning the wooden dashbord of the MK2 (LHD), with 3 parts : the screen rail capping assembly and the two facia board assemblies (cubby and counters).
Would you have adresses and/or contacts to get second hand parts at an affordable price ?

Restoring such parts is very very expensive in France (about 5000 euros).
There are two scenario about the wooden dashboard :
  • The first one, the best one is the veneer is still OK and w’ll have just to do the right treatment ŕ affordable
  • The second one, the worst, the veneer is damaged and we have to replace it : cost a lot roughly 5000 euros !
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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 09:31 AM
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I have an S Type and I think it would be possible. The facia is the same size and the wood is only held in place with the gauges and switches, not screwed on. I think the facia from the S Type is different as the hinges are different so I don't think you could just take the copper facia from the S Type and put it on to the Mk2 but taking the wooden front and using it on the Mk2 facia should not be a problem. I have several spares of differing conditions that I could send you if you want to try to see if it will fit?
Hi Cass3958
When you say :
I have several spares of differing conditions that I could send you if you want to try to see if it will fit
Would you have some photos about these parts.
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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 11:03 AM
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Sure I will have to get them down from the attic tomorrow but will post some pictures for you when I do.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 11:30 AM
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I'm largely with Bill. The Mk2 is a performance sports tourer car with its origins in the 1950s, luxury, but a touch raw. The S type is more a 1960s top-end, executive saloon, with a more cosseting luxury. The interior of the one doesn't quite go in the other in period or ambience.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 12:35 PM
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I'm surprised that you got quotes as high as 5000 euro to restore the veneer. Is there a woodworking club that has someone experienced in furniture restoration or veneering? I can't think of the name now, but there are places in the UK that specialized in Jaguar wood restoration that should be much less expensive.

That being said, all you need is a woodworker experienced in veneering. Doesn't matter than it's in a car until it comes to the finish, there you need something tougher than what is typically used on furniture, so no shellac or lacquer.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2024 | 02:40 PM
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I got many quotes for my interior and most were around Euro 5000. In the end I managed to get hold of a newly created interior for a very soft price, the guy produces great work but he is chaotic and it took months to finally get all the parts.
 
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Sure I will have to get them down from the attic tomorrow but will post some pictures for you when I do.
HI Cass
Have you found something in the attic ?
My best regards
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Old Nov 20, 2024 | 06:11 AM
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Sorry the wife has had me busy the last couple of days so only just got into the attic.
I have four facias all of differing conditions. The best is the one at the bottom of photo one and in photo two. There is no delamination of the veneer but it would need a light rubbing down and re lacquer as the lacquer is al cracked.
The one top left in photo one and in photo three looks like it has been sanded down but there is a small piece of veneer missing in the bottom right corner. This damage is almost covered by the legend for the switches when in place as you can see from the last photo.
The one top right in photo one and in photo four has quite a bit of damage and would need a full refurb.
Lastly there is the one with the gauges which is in a similar condition to the one top right and photo four with several bits of veneer missing.

If you want any of them send me a PM with your details and for a small remuneration I can get the right one in the post to you.






 

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Old Nov 20, 2024 | 07:23 AM
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Hi Cass
Thank you very much for bringing these treasures out of your attic.
However, I do not wish to replace only the central panel, but the three pieces of the dashboard.
So thanks again four your proposal.
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Old Nov 20, 2024 | 07:36 AM
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Rob, I'd be careful about keeping the one with what looks like woodworm in the attic. If it gets into the structural members of the roof it can be a horrendous problem. Apart from that, considering prices on eBay, you may have enough there to pay for next year's holiday!
 
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Old Nov 20, 2024 | 07:54 AM
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Rob, I'd be careful about keeping the one with what looks like woodworm in the attic. If it gets into the structural members of the roof it can be a horrendous problem. Apart from that, considering prices on eBay, you may have enough there to pay for next year's holiday!
I have been told by the wife to sell it all now before I die (Nice of her to be thinking of me) because if I don't it is all going in a skip. I possibly have more money in spare parts in the attic and garage than my car is worth but I understand what she means. Maria would not have a clue as to what most of the stuff is, let alone what it is worth. Next summer I am going to start selling it all off but it is a pain selling each item individually, photographing it, writing up a description, sorting out a price then wrapping it up and posting it out if I do get a buyer. That said if anyone is short of a part for an S Type drop me a line as I might be able to help. Chrome, Glass, Lights, Wood, switches, gauges,. Ask and you will receive.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2024 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GGJag
Hi Cass
Thank you very much for bringing these treasures out of your attic.
However, I do not wish to replace only the central panel, but the three pieces of the dashboard.
So thanks again four your proposal.
My best regards
Gérard
I have all three parts for a RHD car but not the dash top. Below is a photo of one set. I have several of these in varying conditions from really good to basket case.. They are all for the S Type though so not sure if they will actually fit into a Mk2. For one the hinges on the centre section are different which means the fixings are different to connect the wood to the metal dash. Second the Mk2 wood is a lot deeper than the S Type with a fancy bottom end whereas the S Type was shorter and had a parcel shelf under the dash. I even have several glove box liners. Silly what you collect over the years. I was offered a job lot several years ago of 27 boxes of S Type parts for Ł600. I made that back just selling the 20 odd chrome screen surrounds that came with the job lot, especially the rear ones that seem to ping off with a mind of their own if not glued on correctly.


 
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I thought it would be a good idea to post a picture of what the MK2 dash panel woodwork looks like.
As you can see the central switching panel is metal and does not incorporate any woodwork. I think some were painted and later ones had a vinyl finish
I think the upper cant rail is less "fussy' than the S type, but I don't have a handy S type to make a comparison.
The glove box is much deeper than the S type.
MK2 Woodwork
MK2 Woodwork
MK2 Woodwork
MK2 Woodwork
 
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Old Nov 22, 2024 | 09:06 AM
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Bill - That's a lovely interior.

I can see some attraction in swapping to the wood centre panel, but the rest of the dash is such excellent late 1950s early 60s design that I certainly wouldn't change it, not even for weight saving as it's all remarkably light. I accept there's no handle to open the glove box, but the one on the S type seems to be a case of using up left overs. And I'll not go into the exposed hinge ... .
 
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