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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 12:06 PM
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Does anyone have any experience with this product from Limit Fabrications in the UK? I've gone through a couple of the plywood spinner savers but they're difficult to use with my wide center laced wires. Also curious if there are any other recommendations out there, especially anything available in the US. Thanks.


 
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Old Nov 18, 2020 | 02:32 PM
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SNG had a lever tool that some like--check their E-type catalog under wire wheels. Best of luck but with your fab skills bet you could make exactly what you need.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2020 | 05:10 AM
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this must be the lever tool CF mentioned. I haven't tried one. Available in the US.













 

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Old Nov 19, 2020 | 09:45 AM
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I use Lionel's tool and I think it is the best. Light weight and doesn't damage the knockoffs. See this thread: Morgan Technical and Other Topics Blog: A Lionel Roberts Alloy Wheel Spinner Removal Tools by David Owens
His email: wheelwidget@hotmail.co.uk

I like it because when I put the adapter on the wheel it stays there, then I have both hands free to use a breaker bar and socket to loosen the spinner.
 

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Old Nov 19, 2020 | 11:34 AM
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I can recommend Lionels tools as well. I have one for the continental spinners on my S Type. Superbly made tool in alloy that fits over the spinner and then you use a 38mm socket with a long breaker bar on the tool to remove the spinner.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2020 | 01:35 PM
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Just for clarity we know of those but the OP did say in the US!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2020 | 03:36 PM
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J but the OP did say in the US!
If you're ordering something, what's the difference if it comes from the UK or US? The post office will bring it to your door either way.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2020 | 05:46 PM
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I'm still using the good old plywood spinner saver. Get's the job done. I can understand issues with wider than standard centre lock wheels.




 
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Old Nov 20, 2020 | 05:52 AM
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Why not ask the original poster---his desire.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2020 | 06:09 AM
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the difference is the expense and hassle. Shipping anything to or from the UK to the US is expensive. It also is very slow.

I have shipped parts to Belgium, Australia, and Germany and though expensive, it gets there within 9 days or less.. Shipping anything to the UK from US takes 2 or more weeks and a few times the package is returned for the stupidest reasons like leaving unfilled the country of manufacture box in the customs form. Too much hassle.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2020 | 08:30 AM
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions. Shipping cost was my main reason for seeking a U.S. supplier - the Limit tool (which looks heavy) is $106 USD plus $53 shipping. I've emailed Lionel for availability and cost - should be a bit less given the aluminum construction. Both tools appear to be really nice design concepts. I hesitate with the lever tool as it seems to concentrate the load on a very small area so I'd be concerned about damage to the knock off. And yes, with my wheel offsets the wooden tools are hard against my tires and not centered on the spinner ears so they break up in pretty short order. If I don't hear from Lionel I'll probably copy the Limit design and weld something up (thanks for the suggestion).
 
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 09:19 PM
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I've destroyed the plywood tool. I have an aged lead hammer and a new Thor copper and hide mallett.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 05:25 AM
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Old Aug 8, 2022 | 09:43 AM
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that tool is sold in the USA by many vendors. It is kind of clunky. Very easy tp scratch the body paint with it, not very popular. I decided on a short 6 pound sledgehamner for stubborn spinners and to tighten them. Never lost a spinner yet. Yes it creates marks on the chrome but my S type is not a Trailer Queen, it is a driver. New sets of spinners are available.
 
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I've used various lead hammers and the plywood tool that SNG Barrat (& others) sell, but I was gifted a Thor rawhide & copper hammer (also available from SNG Barrat) and have been very satisfied!
 
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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by lyonsfin
I've destroyed the plywood tool. I have an aged lead hammer and a new Thor copper and hide mallett.

If you are destroying the plywood tool you are likely over tightening your spinners. The Plywood tool requires no more tightening than you can do by hand. Never use a Hammer on the plywood tool.

Wise words from MWS (Motor wheel Service UK.) And when they say tap they mean tap with the hide side of the Thor hammer.










 
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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 11:20 AM
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Should there not be some lubrication on the threads, or does that go with out saying ?
If my car had wire wheels, I would use some sort of water resistant grease.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 11:44 AM
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On the splines yes. On the knock on threads ideally no. It alters the torque. If you do lubricate the threads tighten even less. I don't advocate lubricating spinner/hub threads. They are not in motion with one another.

I like solids that are fully drying like off-road chain sprays & similar on the splines ~ Once again there are some special products for the job from Bechem etc. that are hell to get hold of. I've got dry lubricated splines but got a friend in the industry to make it up for me. He has an Aerosol filling plant.
 

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Old Aug 9, 2022 | 12:14 PM
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on occasion i've found a dead tree branch and a large rock to be effective.

lubricants? there's always plenty on the differential and ...well pretty much anywhere under the car.
 

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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
I like solids that are fully drying like off-road chain sprays & similar on the splines ~ Once again there are some special products for the job from Bechem etc. that are hell to get hold of. I've got dry lubricated splines but got a friend in the industry to make it up for me. He has an Aerosol filling plant.
I've used a copper based anti-seize that I brush on. Any thoughts on it? here is the tech sheet: https://docs.jetlube.com/documents/T...DS_English.pdf
 
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