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Old Sep 21, 2022 | 06:27 PM
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I'm going to a local company that does 3D printing. Any value in having several printed for anyone on this site that might need them?
 
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Old Sep 21, 2022 | 08:24 PM
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Felix,
let me know how it works out. I am not sure if my car uses the same part but the cancelling cam for my early switch type now sells for $70.00 on ebay.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2022 | 08:27 PM
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Good plan. Beats buying the whole assembly if your arms aren't corroded. I would take you up on the effort but have spare NOS X 2 which I won't let go at any price.

It's the scanning that costs. Churning out the finished part is cheap
 

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Old Sep 21, 2022 | 08:29 PM
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Felix,
let me know how it works out. I am not sure if my car uses the same part but the cancelling cam for my early switch type now sells for $70.00 on ebay.
Your car uses totally different parts.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2022 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter3442
None of this looks like the all metal mechanism in my Mk2. It works fine in spite of the inch of dirt covering it all.
You will find them (the newer assembly) on the 240 & 340 Peter. The all metal ones were very short lived in production. Look after yours like gold. I've seen precisely one.
 

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Old Sep 21, 2022 | 09:29 PM
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They are not all the same either. Some use the long protrusion cancel clamp/tang like Felix'.

Others use the short variety: Lucas catalogue shows all. Mine uses the short protrusion item like the E Type below.

There are many versions of indicator & headlight flasher unit with different functions & number & colour of wires. Barratts sells a one size fits all. If your car does not have that function just insulate the wire with a push on insulated female connector & ignore.









This one has a broken spring on the lower cancel finger. (sorry ~ marked for another question ~ ignore arrows).
 

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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 04:35 AM
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I agree with Glyn that the early indicator switch (C25255) is awful. No matter what I did, I couldn't get mine to self cancel reliably. So I upgraded to the later version (C25555) which the OP has. In the process, I did come across a 3D printed white plastic cancelling ring on eBay: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275403318...is&media=EMAIL.

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Old Sep 28, 2022 | 10:30 AM
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Thanks Orlando! I haven't had the time to look into getting one made here. I went to eBay but unfortunately eBay won't let me contact the seller regarding international Postage. I thought Lucas was the Prince of Darkness! I'm checking to see if a friend of mine in the UK can get it for me and then send it.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2023 | 01:17 PM
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I have an early 1960 MK2 (LHD) with the turn signal on the right hand side of steering column. My turn signals do not cancel and it seems I am totally missing the plastic cancel sleeve referenced in this thread. I suppose it vaporized years ago with prior owners.

I have searched part numbers and on eBay as was suggested in this post, but cannot not find a source.

Also it was posted that people are 3D printing these. I can print but of course would need the file.

Help anyone?

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Old Oct 29, 2023 | 07:12 PM
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are the switch covers (nacelles) removed ?
is the switch removed ?

take a picture of the switch to see which one you have.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jose
are the switch covers (nacelles) removed ?
is the switch removed ?

take a picture of the switch to see which one you have.
I'll post pics shortly
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 06:52 AM
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Here are pics of my steering hub, note my turn signal is on the right side and OD witch on the left on my 1960 LHD MK2

Looks like the plastic cancelling ring is long gone unless I have some sort of other configuration. Anyhow turn signal does not cancel either direction.

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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 07:03 AM
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Very early models did not cancel. You had to do it manually. Barratts used to carry the non cancelling switch.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Very early models did not cancel. You had to do it manually. Barratts used to carry the non cancelling switch.
Mine it appears does have the cancelling switch with the two tangs that interact with the plastic cancellation ring that is missing. I am fairly sure of this as from my photos it is evident I have the metal piece with the tang that is suppose to fit into the plastic collar.

I did find a source for the missing piece but am not sure it is the right one as is for an E-type, not cheap!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275499574...Yv3vgEdQ%3D%3D

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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 10:00 AM
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that looks like the revised switch, not the early switch.
$50. for the ring is not bad. Some parts are unobtanium and if you find one, you pay the price.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 10:24 AM
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No sure your turn signal switch uses the same plastic canceling ring. On my turn signal mechanism and the other ones that are pictured, the canceling ring snaps into the housing of the the turn signal switch that encircles the entire steering column. From your pictures it doesn't look like your switch has that circular housing.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Felixbobcat
No sure your turn signal switch uses the same plastic canceling ring. On my turn signal mechanism and the other ones that are pictured, the canceling ring snaps into the housing of the the turn signal switch that encircles the entire steering column. From your pictures it doesn't look like your switch has that circular housing.
Exactly ~ The plastic ring shown here is universal to all later mechanisms. I have a whole bunch of the later units from my donor cars & NOS that I bought should I ever have trouble. Shiney un-pitted arms and all.
In May 1960 on MK2's, the steering column stalks swapped sides to suit export market expectations, so that the indicator stalk was now on the left and the overdrive switch on the right. This became the norm for future models.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275499574...Yv3vgEdQ%3D%3D

Every harness was replaced in this car.





 

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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 02:00 PM
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Here are a few more photos of my configuration. It does appear to me at least the switch has a circular opening for the plastic piece to fit. It also looks like the switch mounting is unique to it being on the right, so I cannot mount it on the left. Not that I want to do that. So the question is will this piece work with my switch?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275499574...Yv3vgEdQ%3D%3D

I am inclined to think it should as If look at my photo 2, I have the switch engaged for a right hand turn. You can see the tang sticking out and the metal protrusion that is to engage the missing plastic ring. In the eBay listing above there are a few photos of the plastic ring integral to a switch, exactly the configuration that I should have if the ring was in place..

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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 02:32 PM
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that switch looks like the one in my '65 S type in the way it attaches to the column via two screws.
Do they all attach the same way?

it somehow looks reversed, i.e. tha part facing the driver should be facing the dash ?? Don't know, just guessing.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2023 | 05:02 PM
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That old switch is pre May 1960 when the steering column stalks swapped sides. I doubt it cancels. The photos don't help. I've looked in the Lucas for Jaguar catalogues going back to 1960 & it's not shown. I don't have older catalogues.
 

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