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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 10:34 AM
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I am collecting a 3.4 Manual S-type tomorrow with none power assisted steering.
One thing I am hoping to do is remove the original steering wheel and replacing with a newer, period 3 spoke item.
The trouble I’m having is trying to identify the correct hub required to fit my car and enable the new S/wheel to be fitted. Can anyone recommend one please? I am UK based.

can’t wait to get the car!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 10:40 AM
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Moto Lita can provide a series of hubs. What Make of Wheel do you intend fitting? e.g. Nardi uses different hubs that only they supply. Derringtons use different hubs that Moto Lita can supply. Depends on whose pattern your other wheel conforms to.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Moto Lita can provide a series of hubs. What Make of Wheel do you intend fitting? e.g. Nardi uses different hubs.
just after a generic 3 spoke wood rimmed wheel. I want to remove the original to keep it in good condition.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 01:33 PM
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A manual S-Type, that's kind of a rare beast.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffR1
A manual S-Type, that's kind of a rare beast.
it’s an Aussie import, matching numbers, wire wheels. Pictures will follow soon.

I didn’t realise they were rare.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 01:38 PM
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Jeff's pulling your leg
This is your basic choice. There are many different hubs to consider then it has to fit the Jaguar spline.If you are just looking for a generic wheel go to Moto Lita or SNG Barratt & they can supply you with the correct hub and a wheel. If you want to save some money Tourist Trophy make wheels that fit the standard Moto Lita 9 bolt hub.

Another alternative is to buy a beat up S Type, Mk2, 420 or MkX wheel on Ebay to preserve your existing pristine wheel.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 03:42 PM
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Hi, the hub part needs to match the bolt holes in the center of the steering wheel.

When you buy an aftermarket steering wheel, the seller needs to supply you with the proper hub kit for your car, otherwise don't buy just the wheel or you'll be in for a hassle trying to match wheel and hub.

**Note that the Hub Kit should include the Horn Push assembly and center emblem too.

Moss Motors in California and UK sell the Tourist Trophy wheels and proper hubs. Those wheels are high quality and they are available in wood rim or leather rims, as well as thin or thick grip rims. They are all 15" inch diameter steering wheels compared with the 16 and 7/8" diameter of the original factory wheels. (also known as 17" inch diameter).

I have the black leather / black anonized spokes Tourist Trophy in my '65 S type. I ordered the hub kit from Moss with the steering wheel. It comes with the Horn Push assembly and a miserable silly center emblem. Fortunately I had a beautiful MOMO GERMANY emblem which I adapted to the Tourist Trophy horn push.




 

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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 04:07 PM
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"Depends on whose pattern your other wheel conforms to."
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 04:18 PM
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I have a Moto Lita with a Moto Lita boss. Many people like Astrali wheels. They also use the standard Moto Lita boss.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 04:56 PM
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Jose's nice mod to the hornpush






Custom hornpush on a Derrington. Woodwork by British Autowood. (no clattering horn rings on the bottom spoke).






Look a lot better than the standard Moto Lita hornpush.




 

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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 05:57 PM
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Momo is Italian, not German & now made in the same factory as Nardi. I recently bought one of 4 Nardi's made with the Moto Lita 9 hole mount. 4 specials made for a senior executive there. Now being made full gloss to match the rest of my wood. He wanted satin & who was I to argue.


Very shallow dish. 15"







 

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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Glyn M Ruck
Jeff's pulling your leg
I was being serious, I though most S-Types were pretty much automatic _ my bad.
At least the ones I've seen were auto's.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 06:44 PM
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Yes that is the MOMO emblem, happened to have the same diameter as the MOMO horn push center.

However, the black leather MOMO Olympic (first picture), I have in my XJ has "MOMO GERMANY" engraved / punched in one of the spokes on the rear. I purchased this wheel in 1990 before Ford sent "cease and desist" letters to aftermarket accessory producers prohibiting them from producing Jaguar logos and motiffs of any type. Maybe these wheels were being made in Germany at that time. It came with three horn push emblems., the gold Jaguar growler, a silver Jaguar Leaper, and a yellow "MOMO" logo emblem. ( Ferrari yellow ).

also have another MOMO steering wheel but in wood, that has MOMO ITALY engraved in the rear spoke. (second picture)

I still have all the steering wheels from cars I've owned. The best steering wheel I've always liked is from a 1979 Saab 900 Turbo. Thick grip vinyl covered, 15.5" diameter, non-obstructing spokes. Just perfect.




 

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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffR1
I was being serious, I though most S-Types were pretty much automatic _ my bad.
At least the ones I've seen were auto's.
Sorry Jeff. US influence I guess. There were a hell of a lot of Manual OD S Types built.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jose
However, the black leather MOMO Olympic I have in my XJ has "MOMO GERMANY" engraved / punched in one of the spokes on the rear..
Then it's not Genuine Momo. Momo was produced in Milan, Italy.
 

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Old Mar 26, 2023 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffR1
I I though most S-Types were pretty much automatic _ my bad.
At least the ones I've seen were auto's.
that is true in the USA, most are automatic. I have seen a few with manual transmissions in car shows. They exist but not many in USA.

 
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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 02:46 AM
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Many sold in SA and UK/Europe & Asia Pacific/Aus are Manual/OD. SA would have been approx 80% manual/OD & 20% auto ~ all S Types built here were 3.8. We like to drive our cars. Manual still predominates other than the German big 3 that all have a semi manual mode. IMHO the best of the bunch is the Porsche PDK.

BTW Nardi saved Momo from extinction. Loved the Momo road wheels on my Alfa Spiders.
 

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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 03:33 AM
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I think most of the more traditional wood, leather, aluminium Momo wheels are still made in Italy. However, Momo has been a variously owned, global brand for a long time now and it's quite likely they have items manufactured everywhere.

If you want to be more original, there are a few companies in the UK like Exmoor and Heritage that produce up market wood, leather, aluminium wheels mainly for Range Rovers and Land Rovers.

The standard Mota Lita horn push doesn't look right with far too big an area of very plastic looking plastic. My first attempt at hiding it was to stick a larger badge on top. The final form is more likely to be to use a MK1/XK150 horn badge/button.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 03:52 AM
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The standard Moto Lita Hornpush is awful. Fortunately they make a metal one too turned from billet but the logo is still too small.


Ian Callum's car










 

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Old Mar 27, 2023 | 04:12 AM
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It's OK in Callum's design exercise, but, for me, it's still not 1960s Jaguar enough for my car.
 
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