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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 04:21 PM
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Dear S-Type lovers, would you know the company that supplies the floor console / centrale of Jag S-type 1999 to Jaguar?
This is discontinued at Jaguar Land Rover and I would have thought it can still be supplied by the manufacturing company.
I look forward to your response.

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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 04:37 PM
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I would think you may be hoping for more than reality can deliver. Perhaps you would be better getting a good used part.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 06:43 PM
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I have to agree with Sportston. That is how the automotive industry operates. I think it is somewhere between 10 and 15 years, when a vehicle manufacturer decides that the business of selling spare-parts of that car is not sufficiently profitable any more. Rarely does the "manufacturing company" of a specific part disagree.

PS: Don't shoot the messenger..

Just to give you an idea: I think it was 2012 when I could not get a huge rubber-section of the air-intake for my '97 Fairlane NL from Ford. That was a part, which is ESSENTIAL for the operation of the car, but Ford does not care. Their reply was, that the only way they would still offer such an old part, would have been, if that part had still been used on a later model. So I just used plenty of duct-tape to seal the gaps in the air-intake hose.

BUT: I WAS actually ABLE to buy this exact same part brand-new last year! I learned that you can plain forget about vehicle manufacturers and their suppliers. If there is a market for something (and their would be a market for function-critical parts like this air intake hose on mass-produced cars), then China will manufacture it - with or without having a license to do so - they don't care about copy-right, like car manufacturers don't care about making essential parts available for cars they produced once over 15 years ago. This is why I was able to find brand new cam-covers for the V6 S-Type in China, which were designed by Jaguar to self-destruct over time (as they are made originally out of magnesium, which is being dissolved into a creamy pasty by the surrounding aluminum and steel via galvanic corrosion).

The way to find a part on the internet is by P/N (part number). There should be a P/N on every car part. Type this number into google, ebay, aliexpress, alibaba and Jaguar-specifically into "britishparts", and you will soon know, if you can still buy it anywhere. That way - and by a complicated criss-cross search I even found a place where I could still buy new (even so very old stock) of the big "lid" (with flanges) that is part of many water pumps on V6 S-Type (definitely on the '04/'05 S-Type). This part of mine was corroded thru, and it is normally not possible to buy this very essential part anywhere...

But your console would definitely not be essential. The car drive without it. So if even those parts, which are essential for the function of the S-Type, no longer available, there is pretty much no way, you find this console waiting for you in a shelf - there is no demand for such a part, thus, one one would allocate expensive "shelf-space" for it, and I have to wonder, if it would have ever been possible to buy this part.

A scrap yard is your best bet. You may try to find the P/N of this console, but I cannot imagine, you find it. (unless of course, a scrap yard puts it up for sale on the internet).

Also, I can't see, who such a part can be broken at all. Thus, I assume, there is just some optical damage on it. And it is not very likely that any other old part would look much better. I had parts with optical damage on the dash-board of my Jags. And I have the perfect solution for it: This solution is cheaper than buying a new part (which does not exist anyway) and the result is better: I bought real leather hide and covered the damaged part with it. Simple, but effective.
 

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Originally Posted by Peter_of_Australia
I have to agree with Sportston. That is how the automotive industry operates. I think it is somewhere between 10 and 15 years, when a vehicle manufacturer decides that the business of selling spare-parts of that car is not sufficiently profitable any more. Rarely does the "manufacturing company" of a specific part disagree.

PS: Don't shoot the messenger..

Just to give you an idea: I think it was 2012 when I could not get a huge rubber-section of the air-intake for my '97 Fairlane NL from Ford. That was a part, which is ESSENTIAL for the operation of the car, but Ford does not care. Their reply was, that the only way they would still offer such an old part, would have been, if that part had still been used on a later model. So I just used plenty of duct-tape to seal the gaps in the air-intake hose.

BUT: I WAS actually ABLE to buy this exact same part brand-new last year! I learned that you can plain forget about vehicle manufacturers and their suppliers. If there is a market for something (and their would be a market for function-critical parts like this air intake hose on mass-produced cars), then China will manufacture it - with or without having a license to do so - they don't care about copy-right, like car manufacturers don't care about making essential parts available for cars they produced once over 15 years ago. This is why I was able to find brand new cam-covers for the V6 S-Type in China, which were designed by Jaguar to self-destruct over time (as they are made originally out of magnesium, which is being dissolved into a creamy pasty by the surrounding aluminum and steel via galvanic corrosion).

The way to find a part on the internet is by P/N (part number). There should be a P/N on every car part. Type this number into google, ebay, aliexpress, alibaba and Jaguar-specifically into "britishparts", and you will soon know, if you can still buy it anywhere. That way - and by a complicated criss-cross search I even found a place where I could still buy new (even so very old stock) of the big "lid" (with flanges) that is part of many water pumps on V6 S-Type (definitely on the '04/'05 S-Type). This part of mine was corroded thru, and it is normally not possible to buy this very essential part anywhere...

But your console would definitely not be essential. The car drive without it. So if even those parts, which are essential for the function of the S-Type, no longer available, there is pretty much no way, you find this console waiting for you in a shelf - there is no demand for such a part, thus, one one would allocate expensive "shelf-space" for it, and I have to wonder, if it would have ever been possible to buy this part.

A scrap yard is your best bet. You may try to find the P/N of this console, but I cannot imagine, you find it. (unless of course, a scrap yard puts it up for sale on the internet).

Also, I can't see, who such a part can be broken at all. Thus, I assume, there is just some optical damage on it. And it is not very likely that any other old part would look much better. I had parts with optical damage on the dash-board of my Jags. And I have the perfect solution for it: This solution is cheaper than buying a new part (which does not exist anyway) and the result is better: I bought real leather hide and covered the damaged part with it. Simple, but effective.
Thanks Peter
 
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