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Old Jun 26, 2019 | 08:46 PM
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Default Master cylinder rebuild kit?

Brakes need work, dealership tells
me a piston on the L/F caliper is sticking. Also, sometimes the brakes go from feeling just fine to sinking almost to the floor before I get a little stopping action.
I am going to rebuild both front calipers, remove all
fluid from the reservoir and flush using the motive power brake bleeder system. I have the 99-03 service manual from this site (thanks!)
I would also like to rebuild the master cylinder (as this seems to be a more likely culprit) but I can’t seem
to find a rebuild kit for this part.

I looked through the stickies, and found a couple possible junkyard part options. But I really only need the rubber. Any ideas?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 03:42 AM
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It would help if you include your cars details in your forum signature so we all know what year/model etc. your car is. (See my signature below for an example)
From your post I would guess your car dates from sometime between 99 and 03.

Your car's model year is the 10th digit in the VIN number:
X 1999
Y 2000
1 2001
2 2002
3 2003 (2002.5)

The 11th digit is the model:
J 2.5
F 3.0
G 4.0
H 4.2
1 4.2 S/C
7 2.7 D

2003 Model Year cars finished at VIN M94764.
The master cylinder changed part number at: VIN M45254 This is the start of the 2003 (2002.5) Model Year cars.
It is also a diferent part number if you have DSC or no DSC.

If it is any help here is a link to the official Jaguar on-line parts catalogue:

https://www.jaguarclassicparts.com/uk/s-type-parts

However Jaguar did not produce a rubber kit for the master cylinder and changing the rubbers was not a recomended repair procedure.
You may be better finding a second hand master cylinder that is know to be good and fitting that, as although they are still available new from Jaguar the price is prohibitive on an older car.

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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 06:59 AM
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Hi Mellow,
Yes, my vehicle is a ‘03 STR. I have found some available master cylinders from junkyards using info found in the stickies, and $100 for a used master cylinder is better than $650 for a new one from the dealership. So I suppose I will look in that direction.

Regarding the signature, thanks for the vin info. I am not sure why it isn’t displaying.
Here is a screen shot on my profile info:

As you can see, I have a signature with my car info. I realize how helpful
that can be.

I should also note that Your posts do not seem to show a signature with your car info:


Mobile page

After requesting desktop

Perhaps there is a setting somewhere, I’m not sure.

But thank you again for the info
 
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 07:08 AM
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OH! And using the link You provided I see the MC costs $280 dollars. Dealership quoted me over $650 for this part! In previous dealership visits that quoted me over $700 for the parking brake motor. I spent 30min online and found three sources for new OEM parts for half that. I called them and told them, saying if they couldn’t come down on the price for the part they could not do the work. They came down $200 immediately, so the parking brake motor was replaced
Note to self: Dealers mark up is insane!
 
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Old May 3, 2023 | 11:15 PM
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Thumbs up XK8/XKR Brake master cylinders

Both my 1998 XJR and my 1999 XKR convertible both have German ATE master cylinders as have most Mercedes Benz cars. The XJR m/cylinder JLM20266 is one inch bore and I plan to rebuild it with Frenkit " part number 125077 ( D1848 125077 ) which is also from a 1999 M/Benz . The trick is in removing the hardened steel cross pin that passes through the front piston. The blind circlip can be cut out as the replacement in this kit is a normal type.
The pin is 5/32 in dia and 40mm long . Have yet to dismantle the XKR m/cyl JLM21164 . " An update ; After considerable research it appears that ATE only ever manufactured one Tandem master cylinder between the years 1996 through to 2006 and that the bore size was one inch . What this means is that all the internal seals etc are the same but different outer body styles ( Castings ) were manufactured. If you look at the Jaguar master cylinder bodies you will see they all have ATE cast into them. Unlike Mercedes Benz that made their version serviceable , Jaguar have made it almost impossible for the average person to dismantle their versions. BUT where there is a will there are relations.

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Last edited by John R Parker; May 4, 2023 at 05:19 PM. Reason: New information to hand
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