Hi Ive had my first S type 5 year old Jaguar for one year and last Tuesday it stopped in the middle of the road whilst I was driving it. The automatic gearbox handle moved itself from drive all the way throught the gears up to Park whilst making a huge bang every time it moved. I had both hands stearing the car until it eventualy stopped (making a slow high pitched noise). The car had to be towed away and now the garage is saying the engine is dead and for me to scrap my £12,000 car. It has broke my heart and also terrified me that the car stopped in such a frightening way (on a motorway). Any ideas on how I could get this fixed? I need to get this car fixed asap. Thanks Susan

 

Hi Susan welcome to the forum.

I have never heard of such a thing. It would be helpful to state the year and engine size.

I have moved this post to the S Type section for better exposer. The new member section is not for diagnosing.

You really should create a new introduction and tell us a little about yourself.

 

I believe no similar thing has previously been posted. I cannot even figure out how the handle could be moved by the gearbox as alleged.

 

Hi Susan, we're not trying to accuse you of alleging something that didn't happen, we're first interested in sifting out common operator errors such as; pocketbook on console leaning on shifter, etc. Don't scrap the car but have a competent and trustworthy Jag tech look her over.

 

Hi Susan,

That's certainly a strange one. Be aware that the shifter handle can be moved from one position to another while the car is moving and no damage will occur- the car's electronics 'protect' it from such events. How yours moved itself from D to P is a mystery.

Please provide us with as many details as you can (even if they seem irrelevant) and we'll see waht we can figure out. Your car is FAR from needing to be scrapped- there's lots of alternatives no matter what has happened.

 

True.

If it's 5yr old and auto then it's a ZF 6HP26 autobox so look for a transmission place (NOT A JAG DEALER) who can fix or if need be swap out that box.

Avoid a dealer because they don't do such work themselves and will charge a fortune.

Unless you have a warranty.... (unlikely over here)

 

That sounds very weird, but the engine can't possibly be dead because of it. Worst case the transmission is knackered but that's still far from reason to scrap the car.

As said above, get it looked at by a transmission place or independant Jag specialist.

 

Thanks for all your help ideas and suggestions. To clarify what happened before the car stopped. I was driving with both hands in the wheel the car made a bang and then started slowing down yo a stop. I couldn't use the brakes and I had to steer the car as it made several banging sounds. The gear handle was the reason the bangs were happening. My boss was in the car with me and said that as the automatic gear handle moved (indrpendantly) it was making the bang noise. We thought this was a safety feature and was going into park for safety reasons. I could not restart the engine and had to be towed away. The cr went to jaguar who said it needed a new engine. Took them 20 mins to decide this. Car was then taken to independent garage who said the crankshaft was ceased and would need a new engine. Both garages want me to pay roughly £8-12k for this, YET no one can tell me what is wrong with my car or what is broken. I've rang 2 indrpendant jaguar specialists who also said just scap it. My car is immaculate and I've never has a thing go wrong until now with it. What do I do ?? I've bought a manual off the Internet about the car. Do intake out engine. Look at gearbox ? I am getting no help from Jaguar as they want me to spend £12k+!or scrap it.

 

A Jaguar dealer (franchise) will likely be the most expensive option and they'll probably want to fit a brand new engine.

A jag indy will likely be vastly cheaper and they should be willing to consider a rebuild or used engine (whichever is cheapest).

There are likely some good indy places nearish by and the UK forum probably already has a list if you look - and probably with recommendations from members.

Not trying to get rid of you but you're into English money, English laws, English indy etc

Try to specify all your car details for them, year, engine size, mileage etc. as well as your approx location (city). You can't expect nufc to mean anything to most people LOL.

 

Yeah try the UK board and see if anyone knows a good indy in Tyneside area mate - there's a brilliant one near me but I'm in Norwich so probably not much help to you. £12k sounds barking though, I can't believe it's that bad!

 

Nor can we do a decent job of it having not actually seen the car or knowing of something vaguely similar with other poster's cars. Do you have the V6 or the V8 engine? The car has no mechanism to move the shift level on it's own for any reason, so that's made diagnosis that much more difficult.


"Car was then taken to independent garage who said the crankshaft was ceased "

Would they have meant that the crankshaft was 'seized', ie jammed ? This means that the engine cannot be turned either by hand or with the starter motor. While they might be correct in their diagnosis and possibly a replacement engine might be in order, surely a used one would be available from a breaker's yard at a much more reasonable price.

"Do intake out engine. Look at gearbox ?"

Let me guess. Iphone or blackberry?

To determine exactly WHICH major component is at fault, some hours will have to be invested by a mechanic. JagV8 is right, time to seek a local indy. Please keep us posted with your progress and maybe let the world in on what 'nufc' means.

 

I'll take that one - "Newcastle United Football Club". Limited relevance as a thread title I'll grant you...

 

That was my guess too.
The thread was moved over from the new members section, hence the title.

 

My car is a V6 2.7 twin turbo deisel. Is it possible to remove the gear box when I cannot turn the fly wheel to undo the tauk convertor bolts ? thanks

 

Oh dear. Quite a number of diesel S-Types have suffered catastrophic engine failure. You can read about them on the UK forum or using google but there were no diesel S-Types sold in the USA/Canada so you'll get very few replies here.

The problems concerned only affect the diesel cars.

May be worth sampling the engine oil for diesel fuel and if found asking jag for a free repair / consulting lawyers.

 

JAGV8 could be right about the diesel contamination but this wouldn't account for the gear selector changing down through the gears.Just thinking out off the box,could a length of wood have gone down the side of the gearbox and knocked the selector arm on the outside of the box.I'm not sure if the s-type has external selectors but may explain why the gear selector moved.If this happened before engine had chance to shut down could be why engine is damaged.

 

Even if the gear selector was deliberately put into park while at highway speed, this would not explain the engine damage.