The STR should of came w remote start

 

I don't know if I would even use the remote start?? My wife's Lincoln LS has a very nice after market unit. It will start the car from almost a 1/4 mile away!! But we just don't use it. It is a neat parlor trick!!

Sitting in a bar/restaurant where I can see the car if someone is near the car they do pay attention when it cranks up all by itself.
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Do you think it could be adapted to an S-type?
It's so cold here in the mornings and my car is outside for at least another month.

 

Pretty sure I've seen remote starters advertised for the S-Type. Don't see why not, whether STR or other.

 

Bob -

You can do Remote Start in an S-Type, as long as you have a confident installer / engineer.

You need to get a post key made at the dealer and programmed to the car. (about $40 + programming). You will lose the security afforded by the coded key (the chip from the post key will be burried in the ignition.

All the power door locks functions have to be tapped into at the driver's door module - after that they go over the can bus network to the car. Remote trunk pop is located under the headlight switch. It's pretty straight forward for someone who understands the car.

Brake switch wire is also easily accessible.

I can provide you wiring diagrams with labels of where to tap into etc. I've done the aftermarket alarm with keyless / remote trunk pop in mine. Didn't do remote start because I really didn't see a need for it, but I'd definitely be willing to help if you needed it.

Where are you in Jersey btw?

George

 

Staatsof;
I think the one on the LS would work? It's seems to be a pretty advanced unit and when we got the car I think the previous owner paid about $1000 for it!!

I have attached the model and install instructions. It has lots of options for the remote start but of course can really control just about anything you want. Take a look at what I have attached. I am sure by now this model has been improved and the price has come down.
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Okay now That I realized that the thread was moved.

The LS Remote start will not work on a post 2003 model year S-type.

The 00-02 S-Type, and The Entire Lincoln LS Run used the Ford PATS security, which has been well documented and there are aftermarket modules available to duplicate it, and enable a remote start.

The 2003 + S-Type (which uses a Jaguar key with integrated remote), has a different immobilizer system, which is Jag specific.

You actually can get a "Post" key made by a dealer - just a key with no remote, but the key's transponder still has to be programmed to the car, and the only way to do it is with a Jaguar IDS tool. (All keys, up to 5 have to be programmed simultaneously, both for ignition and for keyless entry).

If you're willing to sacrifice the security of the coded key immobilizer (i.e. if someone where to break in, all they would have to do is mechanically force the ignition lock, or hotwire the car) and it would start, then you can have remote Start in the S-Type.

It's actually pretty easy, but you do have to run wires into a couple parts of the car, and chop up said post key.

I have an aftermarket alarm / keyless in mine, but didn't do the remote start, because I don't really have a need for it, my car stays in the garage at home and at work.

I'd be glad to give anyone a step by step including wiring diagrams of where to tap into for different functions.

George

 

Thanks George. That's exactly what I was concerned about and I'm not interested in compromising the security. You never know when some Nicolas Cage types are going to take a whack at boosting your car.

 

Well if security is your concern, we could always add a relay which will completely disable the starter unless the alarm is disarmed... That way you can have the remote start, BUT the car will not start, even with the key, if the aftermarket alarm's brain doesn't enable the car to start via proper disarming.

Besides, the Nicholas cage types aren't boosting S-Types by hotwiring them. They are gonna show up with a flatbed or snatcher truck and just take it.
The ones you have to worry about are the more urban types, either sticking a gun in your face and telling you to get out at a red light, or the ones that smash a window hoping to get what they can out of the car.

The only time I've had any sort of attempted theft was in the parking garage of the Taj Mahal Casino in atlantic city. Someone tried repeatedly to break the window, but fortunately didn't know how to properly break a tempered pilkington window (which is supposedly 5x stronger than conventional auto glass).

They hit the window repeatedly with a blunt object - probably a rock or brick, and damaged the outer later - looked like someone had ground round spots into the window, but didn't manage to gain entry into the car. I did replace the glass for cosmetic reasons after that.

George

 

is a bypass mod needed for the 2001 s type in order to have remote start

 

Yes, but 00-02 use Ford PATS security which has been well documented and commercially bypassed. Not a big deal.

George

 

androulakis which bypass do i need to get

 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...NWH8CVFJAM1DF9

Wire the car as if it were a Lincoln LS. Everything is the same and it will work fine.

This will only enable the bypass at the moment that the car is starting rather than constantly.

George

 

ok im going to try it and ill let you know how it works thanks

 

So this over ride system will work w/o needing to hide a key in the car?

I just got a new Viper top model remote start for the Jag.....What would be needed for this install.....I really dont want to use a second key in the car for it.....

I know a lot about power but not electrical....

 

NOT on an 03+ S-Type... The box I listed will only work on the 00-02 S-Types that used Ford PATS security. You can get a 3rd post key (no remote) from a dealer to sacrifice for your install.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/00-04...Q5fAccessories

You need that programmed to your car via a Jag dealer or someone with access to Jag IDS (along with all the other keys, they all have to be programmed to the car at the same time, max of 5 simultaneous working keys).

The DEI - Viper alarm you got DOES have one advantage. They make this:
http://compare.ebay.com/like/1903025...Types&var=sbar

You bury your key into that box, and it only activates the transponder during the actual remote start sequence.

George

 

I am confused on the spark plug socket....what would that be used for?

How much to get the keys flashed?

Also I got the program for my iphone.....that links it to the Viper alarm....

 

SORRY!!! Had the wrong link in my clipboard.

http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Immo.../dp/B0009SUEZE

Basically put the key in there, and it only turns on when you're going to remote start.

Call the jag dealer and ask them how much for a valet key and programming. I have no idea what they would charge.

Iphone program I heard is cool...

George

 

cool man.....I think you saved me several dollars here......Will call next week.....

 

androulakis the bypass mod yourecommended me to get for my model does it work with any remote start?