S-Type / S type R Supercharged V8 ( X200 ) 1999 - 2008 2001 - 2009
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Starting issues

  #21  
Old 09-11-2017, 03:48 PM
stevep10's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 389
Received 112 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

It's a starting point at least.

IIRC, Another member did this a short while back on one of their relays that was causing a problem:
Check the blades where the relay plugs into for any sign of corrosion/rust/dust build up. Clean it as best you can.
Bit of electrical spray to give a little extra cleaning.
If, when you plug the relay back in, it slips in easily, take it back out, use a small screwdriver and CAREFULLY bend the tangs in the relay board in a little to make a tighter connection when plugging the relay back in.
For what they cost, replacing the relay for a new one wouldn't hurt either.

If indeed this is the problem at all.
 
The following users liked this post:
dlowings (09-11-2017)
  #22  
Old 09-11-2017, 08:12 PM
kr98664's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 4,344
Received 1,980 Likes on 1,399 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dlowings
here is something interesting. I removed the R15 relay, dusted the prongs off a little and put it back in and the thing started right up ? red herring ? prior to that, the car had not started for about the past three days of trying it..
Very interesting, and some great troubleshooting. Had you tried to start the car (unsuccessfully) just before reseating the relay? Or did you fiddle with the relay first? If the former, that would sure point to something you did, whether the relay itself is bad or the connections were at fault.

For giggles, try popping off the cover on the suspect relay. Look for any signs of arcing like on this one:

 
The following 2 users liked this post by kr98664:
dlowings (09-12-2017), Jumpin' Jag Flash (09-17-2017)
  #23  
Old 09-12-2017, 08:25 AM
dlowings's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 73
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

yep, I did try to start the car prior to messing with the relay, so I think the relay is a strong suspect. The car starts right up for now, so I'm going to drive it for a few days to see if it gives more issues. I may have the dealership order me one up just to have on standby . On another note, it started first try once again this morning. since I have fiddled with the relay, there have been no starting issues. so far so good .
 

Last edited by dlowings; 09-12-2017 at 09:33 AM.
The following users liked this post:
Jumpin' Jag Flash (09-17-2017)
  #24  
Old 09-14-2017, 12:12 PM
dlowings's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 73
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Little bit of an update, After the past two days, the issue only happened once more and I immediately removed and reseated the relay and the car started right back up. Today I went to the Ford dealer and picked up a new one for 18 dollars. I put it in and the car started with no issue. I decided to take the old one apart and could see no arc'ing but the thing was EXTREMELY hot... I guess time will tell. As I was driving back from the Ford dealer, I was wondering if there could be something connected to the relay that is causing it to fail. I don't want to get ahead of myself but just trying to think of other things in case this is just a symptom of something else .
 
  #25  
Old 09-14-2017, 12:19 PM
JagV8's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Yorkshire, England
Posts: 26,647
Received 4,483 Likes on 3,901 Posts
Default

See if the new one is similarly hot.
 
The following users liked this post:
Jumpin' Jag Flash (09-17-2017)
  #26  
Old 09-14-2017, 09:01 PM
kr98664's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 4,344
Received 1,980 Likes on 1,399 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dlowings
I decided to take the old one apart and could see no arc'ing but the thing was EXTREMELY hot
The $64 question:

Did the new one get hot?

This thread talks about (hopefully) normal temperatures for relays in use:


https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...-r-s-c-187819/
 
The following users liked this post:
Jumpin' Jag Flash (09-17-2017)
  #27  
Old 09-14-2017, 11:02 PM
aholbro1's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Decatur, TX
Posts: 4,612
Received 1,638 Likes on 1,066 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dlowings
As I was driving back from the Ford dealer, I was wondering if there could be something connected to the relay that is causing it to fail.
Yes, your fuel pump. There will come a time, probably sooner than later, when a new relay will not solve the problem. Your fuel pump is screaming, "I'm dying in here!"
 
  #28  
Old 09-15-2017, 08:22 AM
kr98664's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 4,344
Received 1,980 Likes on 1,399 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by aholbro1
Yes, your fuel pump. There will come a time, probably sooner than later, when a new relay will not solve the problem. Your fuel pump is screaming, "I'm dying in here!"
For peace of mind, you could test the amp draw of the fuel pump. The easiest way to do it would be at the relay socket.
 
  #29  
Old 09-15-2017, 12:44 PM
dlowings's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 73
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

ok, so the new relay seems better heat wise, but I'm not going to pop the top off to do a closer look. I'm going to ride it until it bucks and start saving some money for a new rule pump. looks like Rockauto is out of the pump for now anyway. as always, tons of fun..
 

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:24 PM.