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Old 03-11-2012, 09:51 AM
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latest is that there was a dry joint at the back of the ignition barrel. This was sorted, however, problem recurred within 2 uses of the car (again , after dark, when the temperature had dropped).

Steering lock itself has still not been replaced; does anyone know if these fail frequently in an intermittent manner?
 
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by andy_pennington
latest is that there was a dry joint at the back of the ignition barrel. This was sorted, however, problem recurred within 2 uses of the car (again , after dark, when the temperature had dropped).

Steering lock itself has still not been replaced; does anyone know if these fail frequently in an intermittent manner?
Just a little update. I never got to the bottom of this. Its one year on and the problem still occurs. However, I now just leave the key in... no problems at all then. Lock the door with the other key, and its safe so long as nobody actually puts the window through... I decided that I could spend and spend to cure this and the car simply isn't worth it. If I lasted a year without it being stolen, I figured it had paid for itself. It's been a year now, so I figure its done its duty. Every month now is a bonus, and it drives really well. I just can never sell it except as scrap!

pathetic that the solution couldn't be found though.
 
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Hi,

I've the same issue with mine….

Seems ridiculous that it can't be fixed
 
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:22 AM
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I had this problem with my S type. The solution, for me, was to pull the 10 amp blue fuse. No. 19 in the fuse box near driver's feet. This will prevent the steering column lock from working and the car will start reliably. Pulling out fuse 19 won't effect any other electrics (other than the steering tilt mechanism).

If this is occurring on your XJ6 then my suggestion may not answer your problem but it is worth checking which fuse handles your steering column lock and giving it a go. There is nothing to lose as the fuse can easily be put back in place.

Although this is only an interim repair it is better than the intermittent non start issue, and for me it is a permanent answer until someone comes up with a definitive answer to the problem.

Good luck and post back if you find a complete solution.
 
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Originally Posted by Paul792
I had this problem with my S type. The solution, for me, was to pull the 10 amp blue fuse. No. 19 in the fuse box near driver's feet. This will prevent the steering column lock from working and the car will start reliably. Pulling out fuse 19 won't effect any other electrics (other than the steering tilt mechanism).

If this is occurring on your XJ6 then my suggestion may not answer your problem but it is worth checking which fuse handles your steering column lock and giving it a go. There is nothing to lose as the fuse can easily be put back in place.

Although this is only an interim repair it is better than the intermittent non start issue, and for me it is a permanent answer until someone comes up with a definitive answer to the problem.

Good luck and post back if you find a complete solution.

Many thanks for the prompt reply. That seems like a good workaround. However, I just spent twenty minutes reviewing the FUSE diagrams/labels from the owners manual and cannot find the fuse for the steering column lock. THere is one for the tilt etc, but no mention of the column lock…. could that be it?
Thanks again..
 
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Old 06-30-2015, 04:35 AM
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If it is an early model S type. It is fuse No. 19 a blue 15 amp fuse in the fuse box down near the driver's feet.

You can check this in the driver handbook that comes with the car describing the fuses and what they do. The S type driver handbook describes fuse 19 as the fuse for "steering column motors" Ch.5-page 27.

However, if it is an XJ6 (as in your signature) then I don't know. It won't hurt to try the fuse that works the tilt. After taking this fuse out on my car. lt is a non-working tilt that is the compromise for reliably starting my S type.

http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Elec...al%20Guide.pdf

I am sorry I can't help more with your XJ6
 
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Originally Posted by Paul792
If it is an early model S type. It is fuse No. 19 a blue 15 amp fuse in the fuse box down near the driver's feet.

You can check this in the driver handbook that comes with the car describing the fuses and what they do. The S type driver handbook describes fuse 19 as the fuse for "steering column motors" Ch.5-page 27.

However, if it is an XJ6 (as in your signature) then I don't know. It won't hurt to try the fuse that works the tilt. After taking this fuse out on my car. lt is a non-working tilt that is the compromise for reliably starting my S type.

http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Elec...al%20Guide.pdf

I am sorry I can't help more with your XJ6
Many thanks, I'll try the tilt one layer and let you know..
 
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Default Andy did you find a solution my 2001 s-type has same problem

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Just a little update. I never got to the bottom of this. Its one year on and the problem still occurs. However, I now just leave the key in... no problems at all then. Lock the door with the other key, and its safe so long as nobody actually puts the window through... I decided that I could spend and spend to cure this and the car simply isn't worth it. If I lasted a year without it being stolen, I figured it had paid for itself. It's been a year now, so I figure its done its duty. Every month now is a bonus, and it drives really well. I just can never sell it except as scrap!

pathetic that the solution couldn't be found though.
Exact problem happened to me today first time its happened i had to leave it behind hope its in one piece tomorrow but reading your forum you had the exact same issue so champ i'm hoping like hell that you can help me even though your forum dates 2010
 
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Originally Posted by bretted
Exact problem happened to me today first time its happened i had to leave it behind hope its in one piece tomorrow but reading your forum you had the exact same issue so champ i'm hoping like hell that you can help me even though your forum dates 2010
Hi, actually I sold the car to a mate before the 'pull the fuse' entry was added to the thread. He has never had the problem in the 18 months that he has been using it, and loves the car. His mate is a (...better than my...) Jag specialist, though, so it may be he knew the workaround and pulled the appropriate fuse.

However, unfortunately I don't know any more than is in this thread about the fuse to pull.
It seems a logical workaround, though. See the previous threads and try that.
Sorry I cant be of more help.

Best of luck. To be honest, if it yours is a hard fault, it should be easy to fix. My problem was it would never go wrong when I took it to the specialist. They thought i was loopy, I think.

Cheers, Andy.
 
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Hi Bretted
You have the early model S Type, so what I did below should work without the tilt operation on the wheel. I don't mind not having tilt for a car that will reliably start.

By doing this, It has been over two years without a problem starting

"had this problem with my S type. The solution, for me, was to pull the 10 amp blue fuse. No. 19 in the fuse box near driver's feet. This will prevent the steering column lock from working and the car will start reliably. Pulling out fuse 19 won't effect any other electrics (other than the steering tilt mechanism).

Although this is only an interim repair it is better than the intermittent non start issue, and for me it is a permanent answer until someone comes up with a definitive answer to the problem."

Good luck and post back if you find a complete solution.
 
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G/Day All, Bretted, Did removing the fuse for steering lock work, I have removed it from ours 2000 S Type Jaguar 4 litre V8,but still locked and won't start??? Chuck Cresswell
 
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Hi Chuck
I believe it will work once you have the steering wheel in an unlocked state prior to pulling the fuse.

With my car the "steering locked" state was happening every now and then. So I waited until it was unlocked before pulling the fuse. I haven't actually tried pulling the fuse in the locked state. This is possibly why it did not work for you.

I know this sounds annoying having to wait. But if it is intermittent, like mine, then give it a try when it is unlocked.

I have had no problems since doing this. If this works for you post it.

Good luck
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Ok, Thanks Paul I will have to wait, have been playing with it now for 4 days and still locked, I might have to take up drinking and sit in carport till it unlocks, HA Ha. Cheers Mate.
 
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Hi Again Paul792 , Having taken that on board is there any way of unlocking the steering??
Chuck Cresswell
 
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Thanks Paul792, she on the road again, Chuck
 
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Great news Chuck.

Definitely worth a beer or two, know its back on the road.

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Hi Mate, funny thing this afternoon I took the earth lead off battery and put back on to reset radio code and the bloody steering locked again with no fuse?? so gave it another hit to free it and now I have removed the wires to the steering lock completely all good so far. Cheers Chuck
 
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Hi folks. I tried the remove the fuse thing and as soon as I turned the car off and on again the steering column was locked. So it failed to work for me or did I do something wrong?
 
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I've been chasing this issue for a while now as my own car suffers from it. Rather than find a bypass I have been trying to solve it. We had a fairly new vehicle in the workshop and before we had chance to get it on track it came up with "steering column locked"
A bright spark came up with a new approach to it. Clearly its not wear and tear related so something else. He re-flashed the one of the module/ecu's assuming that maybe a file had been corrupted. The fact this happens on other vehicles also points down this road and the fact it could be seen as security related. So far the vehicle in question has not showed the message again and believe me we put a lot of time and miles on these cars. So next week I will be taking my jag in to try and duplicate the experiment (provided we can find the software to re-flash the car) I'll keep you informed.
 
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Ady, I have the same problem 2007 s type r which I left sit for a month and it came up with steering column locked, gearbox fault, traction fault and many more. Do you know what module you re flashed?
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