Why would that have been a reasonable price for that car? I know the mileage is a bit high but is there some other problem with it?

 

Time are tough for STRs.

 

10k is totally unfair, I would say 15k should take it. Also, way too many miles.

 

Is there evidence of good clean STRs selling this cheap? Not cars with 80 to 100K miles that clearly look like money pits or have have been modified with big pulleys, killer chiller dillers etc ... ?

Also, if that car has a well document history of having had all the foibles usually showing up at about those miles addressed properly that could make a huge difference. If you're not far from a complete brake job and new tires that could easily be $2K depending on who does it for you. Even with the non-Brembo brake system.

Those photos didn't tell one much about condition except that it wan't god awful. I saw some god awful cars when I looked 1.5 years ago. Anything that was $10K was not on my radar screen. Even a 2003 with low 30K miles was more than that at that time and this car is 3 years newer. Not to say that it's 3 years better either.

Condition, age and miles all matter but condition is the most important as long at it's an unmodified car. Tuned cars are death in my book when it comes to resale.

 

Thing is, ebay bids seem to be a Maximum yet don't take into account the reserve. It's a bug in their bidding system - or have I missed a way to force it to behave differently?

I've lost the odd item for this reason
It means that even though the bid may have been over the reserve you don't win (the item is unsold) because the bid you were deemed by ebay to make was the highest. The extra between what ebay chose (that highest) and your max bid is ignored by ebay.

By way of example, suppose Rick's bid was $16K, the reserve $15K, but the next highest bid $10K. ebay's system may have then chosen Rick's bid as $10K+1. So, an unsold item (reserve not met). I haven't found a way to fix this - other than having 2 ebay accounts and bidding against myself which I don't think is allowed but in any case would be a pain in the neck.

 

That's not a bug. That's just how auctions work. It sounds like you'd like to know the reserve in advance. LOL!

Just keep bidding until the reserve is met. Then if you remain the high bidder the item is yours. Rick did not win the item because he didn't meet the reserve.

If you don't want to commit to a higher amount unless someone else does then if the seller doesn't drop the reserve you're out of luck.

You're competing with other bidders and negotiating with the seller all at the same time.

It's no more complicated than that.

Now the seller gets to re-list and perhaps it will be with a lower reserve?

Cyber-haggle.

You can always contact the seller directly ...

 

I actually put a $16,501.00 MAX bid on the vehicle. So that right there says that the reserve is above that. The seller sent me an email of "call" sales person Joe Blow, "lets talk". I may do so, but I will be honest, like Jon, if I cannot steal a vehicle I will walk away...

I am one of "those guys" that usually bids a high bid in the last 10 seconds of the auction. It has worked out very well for the 3 of our ebay vehicle purchases.

I will use Joyces Jag as an example, almost 3 years ago when the economy was in the tank. Nice 2005, 3.0s were selling between $17k and $21k. Joyces Jag was a no reserve auction after the first listing having a reserve and expired. High bid was $12k. Joyce and I decided on our MAX bid, and waited to the final minute of bidding, Joyce was pushing the buttons and jumped the gun, she entered the MAX bid, which gave someone else the opportunity to out bid her and someone did with seconds to go. Ebay automatically entered our high bid, which obviously out bid the other and we won the auction. We stole this vehicle for $12,600 (our high bid was $17,001.00). To date we have $600.00 in parts into her.

 

Mike, very true, but when the "talking gas guage", tells me the vehicle is out of gas, it sure will be a fun drive to say mmmmm.....Georgia to refill


As far as black vehicles, my dd is black and it doesn't look that bad, but I know what you mean. I had been a white vehicle guy all my life.

 

That's not including all the time wasted er ah I mean invested on this website and all that beer ... LOL

 

OK. The mileage is what would bother me on this one because you know what's probably coming. Hell, other than the supercharger related stuff I think you've already done and pioneered the way on most of this "fun".

Your mileage is gonna suffer but it will be fun!

 

Rick,
It shows it as being SOLD.

 

Hmmm thats new as of this morning.

I guess the email that I received from the seller went to everyone who bid maybe?

Oh well wasn't meant to be.......

We'll keep our eyes peeled.

Right on!!!!

 

That is more or less how I expected it to work but that's not how ebay works.

You can "keep bidding" but that only ups the max figure ebay remembers for you. It does not change the amount you've actually bid if you're the highest bidder. It does not matter if that highest bid is below the reserve - the actual bid stays as it is.

So you could bid $1million in the scenario I gave and still not win even though the reserve is $15K. It would need another bidder to also bid up to (at least) the $15K.

I'm not asking to know the reserve. ebay could - at the very close of the auction - compare your max that ebay has remembered against the reserve and at least bid that. It doesn't.

In the scenario I gave (and many many similar), that means a willing bidder of more than the reserve yet an unsold item.

It's a way to run auctions but it has a weird side-effect!

 

JagV8 - That's true if your bid is below the reserve. If your bid meets or exceeds the reserve then the reserve acts as a blind bid and your bid will be accepted at the reserve.

Rick,
That car has been on auto-trader for awhile by owner for $17,800. It looks like some broker tried to sell it for him. It's still there.

 

Apparently not. What makes you think so?

 

That's the whole point if you happen to be the seller--to create the competition and get the price up.

Doug

 

I think Clyons is right, Ricks high bid was $16,501 which was below the reserve so ebay made the bid $10,001 just to keep him as high bidder.
Assuming the reserve was $17,000 and Rick had set a high bid of $17,501 the site would have automatically put his bid at the reserve of $17,000.

 

Bingo!!!!

 

They'd have a real problem with a lot of unsold stuff it did not work that way.

 

I couldn't sell my 03 with 60k for 11.8. I know another member here knocked his 03 down to 10.5 I believe will still no takers.