Tranny bumps s-type 4.2
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Tranny bumps s-type 4.2
Good fellas , how is it going !?
I just bought a beautiful Stype 2005 , 4.2 V8 , 94500 miles on it . I did a quick test drive nothing to worry about .
So when I took it for a long drive going back home, I felt some bumps while changing gears , sometimes between 1-2 , 3-2 , like the torque goe down between gears while upshifting , and I tried a kickdown , it takes like 2 seconds to lauch it , and the gearbox gives a huge bump while downshifting .
I had a bmw e65 30d with the same transmission zf6hp26 , it was so smooth , even when go on kick down nothing bad happen !
I took the jag to a local AAMCO to make an oil change for both engine and transmission . He offered to rebuild the transmission and he canno't make the oil change for it , he said that he is afraid to do it , it could make the things worse . And he focused on rebuiding the trans and offered me financing and all that stuff. I asked him to clear the ECU and TCM and give it a try again maybe it would fix the problem and then we change the oil and filters , he didn't accept to do that !
I mean I know that smtg is wrong with my transmission, but I felt like the guy wanted to sell me something that I don't need based on my lake of informations and experience.
after diagnostic , we had this code number : PO829 , saying slip between gears 5-6 . But I don't have any problem on that level , the only bumps I feel are on the first second and third gear .
what do you suggest guys ? Help me please !
I just bought a beautiful Stype 2005 , 4.2 V8 , 94500 miles on it . I did a quick test drive nothing to worry about .
So when I took it for a long drive going back home, I felt some bumps while changing gears , sometimes between 1-2 , 3-2 , like the torque goe down between gears while upshifting , and I tried a kickdown , it takes like 2 seconds to lauch it , and the gearbox gives a huge bump while downshifting .
I had a bmw e65 30d with the same transmission zf6hp26 , it was so smooth , even when go on kick down nothing bad happen !
I took the jag to a local AAMCO to make an oil change for both engine and transmission . He offered to rebuild the transmission and he canno't make the oil change for it , he said that he is afraid to do it , it could make the things worse . And he focused on rebuiding the trans and offered me financing and all that stuff. I asked him to clear the ECU and TCM and give it a try again maybe it would fix the problem and then we change the oil and filters , he didn't accept to do that !
I mean I know that smtg is wrong with my transmission, but I felt like the guy wanted to sell me something that I don't need based on my lake of informations and experience.
after diagnostic , we had this code number : PO829 , saying slip between gears 5-6 . But I don't have any problem on that level , the only bumps I feel are on the first second and third gear .
what do you suggest guys ? Help me please !
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I would start with an ATF drain-and-fill using Mercon SP (available at any Ford dealership usually for less than $7 per quart). Only about half of the original ATF will drain out of your system (5 quarts or so), so put another 1,000 or so miles on the car after the drain-and-fill to determine if your transmission shifts have significantly improved. If they have, do one more ATF drain-and-fill to get your Mercon SP content up to between 85% and 90% and call it a day....
Make certain you follow the correct ZF 6HP26 drain-and-fill procedure to the letter. Search for it here on this forum and you will find excellent step-by-step instructions....
I would also check the age and condition of the battery. Low or dying batteries cause many issues in these cars, including faulty transmission behavior....
Make certain you follow the correct ZF 6HP26 drain-and-fill procedure to the letter. Search for it here on this forum and you will find excellent step-by-step instructions....
I would also check the age and condition of the battery. Low or dying batteries cause many issues in these cars, including faulty transmission behavior....
Last edited by Jon89; 07-12-2017 at 01:03 PM.
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Since you just bought the car you might want to perform a 'CLEAR ADAPTATIONS' from the TCM and make sure the fluid level is correct.
This will require dealer level scan tool.
You can then drive the car (without 'sport-mode') to allow the TCM to 're-learn' shift patterns.
You might want to avoid the AAMCO shop, sounds like they are in over their head if they cannot drain/fill a gearbox.
bob
This will require dealer level scan tool.
You can then drive the car (without 'sport-mode') to allow the TCM to 're-learn' shift patterns.
You might want to avoid the AAMCO shop, sounds like they are in over their head if they cannot drain/fill a gearbox.
bob
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Since you just bought the car you might want to perform a 'CLEAR ADAPTATIONS' from the TCM and make sure the fluid level is correct.
This will require dealer level scan tool.
You can then drive the car (without 'sport-mode') to allow the TCM to 're-learn' shift patterns.
You might want to avoid the AAMCO shop, sounds like they are in over their head if they cannot drain/fill a gearbox.
bob
This will require dealer level scan tool.
You can then drive the car (without 'sport-mode') to allow the TCM to 're-learn' shift patterns.
You might want to avoid the AAMCO shop, sounds like they are in over their head if they cannot drain/fill a gearbox.
bob
Hope that will fix the problem . If so , do you recommand that after 300 miles , I change the fluid and filter ?
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I would start with an ATF drain-and-fill using Mercon SP (available at any Ford dealership usually for less than $7 per quart). Only about half of the original ATF will drain out of your system (5 quarts or so), so put another 1,000 or so miles on the car after the drain-and-fill to determine if your transmission shifts have significantly improved. If they have, do one more ATF drain-and-fill to get your Mercon SP content up to between 85% and 90% and call it a day....
Make certain you follow the correct ZF 6HP26 drain-and-fill procedure to the letter. Search for it here on this forum and you will find excellent step-by-step instructions....
I would also check the age and condition of the battery. Low or dying batteries cause many issues in these cars, including faulty transmission behavior....
Make certain you follow the correct ZF 6HP26 drain-and-fill procedure to the letter. Search for it here on this forum and you will find excellent step-by-step instructions....
I would also check the age and condition of the battery. Low or dying batteries cause many issues in these cars, including faulty transmission behavior....
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The Mercon fluid referenced above is approved for our ZF transmissions. The AAMCO guy sounds like a crook or an idiot or both. Run away.
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Clear Adaptations "This will require dealer level scan tool."
The TCM adaptations are stored in the module. Disconnecting the battery will NOT clear the adaptations. Rewriting some of the software in the module will clear the bad habits that the module has learned over time if that is what happened.
Many things cause the TCM to have faulty shift patterns.
bob
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Did you read my post???
Clear Adaptations "This will require dealer level scan tool."
The TCM adaptations are stored in the module. Disconnecting the battery will NOT clear the adaptations. Rewriting some of the software in the module will clear the bad habits that the module has learned over time if that is what happened.
Many things cause the TCM to have faulty shift patterns.
bob
Clear Adaptations "This will require dealer level scan tool."
The TCM adaptations are stored in the module. Disconnecting the battery will NOT clear the adaptations. Rewriting some of the software in the module will clear the bad habits that the module has learned over time if that is what happened.
Many things cause the TCM to have faulty shift patterns.
bob
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This transmission needs a very precise fluid with exactly the right combination of additives in the correct amount. It's proven to work perfectly- right out of the bottle.
Any additive is more than likely to upset this balance in a negative way.
Please share why you feel the need to re-engineer stuff.
Any additive is more than likely to upset this balance in a negative way.
Please share why you feel the need to re-engineer stuff.
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This transmission needs a very precise fluid with exactly the right combination of additives in the correct amount. It's proven to work perfectly- right out of the bottle.
Any additive is more than likely to upset this balance in a negative way.
Please share why you feel the need to re-engineer stuff.
Any additive is more than likely to upset this balance in a negative way.
Please share why you feel the need to re-engineer stuff.
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Very different than some guy who's read too many hot rod magazines sponsored by snake oil vendors.