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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 09:55 PM
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Alldata notes that the engine has to be raised. Any way around this? Maybe pulling the fan and rad out?

This is in regards to a 2005 Jaguar S-Type
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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I looked over the manual and I don't think it will be any easier to try and get all the cooling system out of the way to try to sneak it out the front. My guess is that you don't have a lift. I would suggest getting the car on jack stands at the rockers and let the suspension droop. You have to let the rack drop down and get to the motor mount bracket and remove that. I know those compressors seem to have the car built around them but I think if you don't mind being on your back on a creeper, it'll be a huge time saver for you. Just my 2 pennies. Good luck. I know those suck to replace.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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Even though I have not replaced a compressor on a V8, I would follow BlackX300VDP's advise!

Remember "its fun to DIY on your back"! I should know!
 
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Old Jul 13, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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I'am pretty sure there is a bolt that can not be removed without lifting the engine up and away from the cross member.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 07:58 AM
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I tried to do this with out on my 03, no way that thing is coming out, jtis states to raise only the drivers side of the engine though looks like Jag dealers have some sort of tool that hooks to the block and rest on the shock towers
 
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SeamlessAutomotive
I'am pretty sure there is a bolt that can not be removed without lifting the engine up and away from the cross member.
I see what you mean. I ordered an engine support bar from harbor freight. 1000 Lb. Capacity Engine Support Bar
 
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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do you know of a better source for Engine lifting brackets 303-749?

I can only find them for sale from
Ford Motorcraft 303-749 Front Engine Lifting Brackets (Pair) V8
 
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get two pieces of heavy chain and a couple of bolts
 
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 04:34 PM
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get two pieces of heavy chain and a couple of bolts
I assumed the brackets were shaped a specific way in order to use a specific mounting location and not damage other parts when put under tension?
 
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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You could look at the mounting points and use string to decide on clearance. You can duplicate the effect using heavy barstock with two holes drilled in them.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Or as a respected tech herel said some time ago in a different thread, unbolt the two motor mounts and use a floor jack between the engine and transmission.
 
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Did you try the manufacturer:

SPX Jaguar | Main

type in the part number and do a search popped right up
 
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJR-S
Did you try the manufacturer:

SPX Jaguar | Main

type in the part number and do a search popped right up
Outstanding info. I guess that mean's my local dealer can order this item? I wonder if it is cheaper from ford.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 10:05 PM
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Pretty sure you can order directly on the web site, i placed an order on their once, only reason it was cancelled was the part had been discontinued, cant hurt to give it a try
 
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I'd order direct from SPX and avoid the likely dealer markup, it's handy to have the correct items although some of the tools are outrageously priced
 
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 11:26 PM
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The install was easy when you have all the tools, but for a compressor repair there is a lot involved. It was a good time to change motor mounts and a fuel filter, I wish I had ordered a throttle body gasket ahead of time.

My Problems:
I have a nasty metal on metal vibration in 1st gear at 50% throttle or more, it sounds like the motor is shifting to the side under torque causing some thing to rub, my first thought is maybe the compressor is wider then the original causing the bolts to rub against the subframe but I didn't see any evidence of that. I wonder if I damaged some thing upon lifting the motor to get the mount out. The car has 2 new engine mounts.

The new aftermarket compressor I had turned out to have a slightly smaller pulley, the belt seems to hold normal tension.

Any one have this sort of problem after an install like this?
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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I did some measuring and the mounting portion of the compressor is longer than the factory compress so the bolts don't thread in as much as before so there is very little room between the head of the bolt and the sub frame, the noise I'm hearing is from the bolt hitting the frame under acceleration.

I'm going to have to shave down 1/4 inch or so in order to stop the bolt from hitting the frame.

My advice to the next person doing this job is to not buy a new aftermarket compressor, purchase an oem rebuilt or new oem compressor.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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That sucks!

Are you planning to remove the compressor to shave off the 1/4"?

When you changed the motor mounts are you sure that the motor was "centered". I have read before that there is a procedure to align the motor/trans with the rearend.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 09:30 PM
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No its to much work to pull it out. I think I'll raise the motor to remove the bolt and try to get in there with a cutting tool of some kind.

I dont recall seeing any way to adjust the mounts, they are installed in a fixed position.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Xtype

I dont recall seeing any way to adjust the mounts, they are installed in a fixed position.

Hmm interesting maybe it just applies to us granny mobiles (V6). I just went to alldata and it stated twice to "Underbody Misalignment Check" but they do not reference how to perform the "check".

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CAUTION: Make sure the engine mount locators are correctly aligned on installation. Failure to follow this procedure may result in damage to the vehicle

CAUTION: Make sure the engine mounts locate into the correct position when the engine is repositioned. Failure to follow this procedure may result in damage to the vehicle.
 
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