Time for a fluid change and the manual recomends Shell Super Dot4 ESL........great!! Except it does not seem to exist!!! There is a ESL ultra Dot4.......and a super dot 4........
Cannot find anywhere a super dot4 ESL

Any advice??

My head says go with the ESL ultra Dot4

 

The Dealer Has it....

SUPER or ULTRA..it's all then same.... UK puts the super on it.....

As long as it is DOT 4 ESL..It'll work fine.

 

Thanks dpk

 

Shell branded dot 4 esl is pretty much impossible to find outside of the U.K.

 

Don't know where you are located, but O'Reilly auto has it. My local store actually has the DOT 4 ESP in stock.

List: Search for 'brake fluid' | O'Reilly Auto Parts

No affiliation

 

Jag requires DOT 4 ESL

 

And the post you are shouting about said:

 

SHOUTING IS WITH ALL CAPS!!..don't stir the pot when it don't need it..

Are you blind too?..Must be as you didn't see he posted ESP......There, maybe you can see that..

 

I'm in the UK......

Would you believe my local fuel station had some!!!! Dot 4 ESL....... v happy

THANKS GUYS!!

 

Viscosity control
Sophisticated anti-lock braking (ABS), dynamic and stability
(ESP) systems incorporated into modern vehicles place
additional emphasis on the ability of a hydraulic fluid
to maintain low viscosity and flow through very narrow
channels. These requirements are described by the ISO
4925-Class 6 specification.
To meet these increasing demands Shell developed and
introduced Shell Brake Fluid DOT 4 ESL (Extended System Life),
a new formulation designed to maintain consistent low viscosity
under all temperatures and conditions. This excellent low viscosity
performance permits the use of advanced braking control
systems without the need for expensive pre-charge pumps.

The above quote is from Shell.
ESP stand for Electronic Stability Programme.
Brake fluid for that system is labeled ESP or ESL.
The fluid I cited is compatible with Jaguar.

 

I've checked into this a bit, and found nothing supporting your claim..I would hesitate going with ESP formulation just because you said it's compatible...My concern would be MIXING of the two formulations, since Jaguar STATES in their OM that ESL is to be used only and is what they sell for the Brake fluid. Nor does it ever state there is an "alternate" or "instead of" suggested or listed such as this ESP...

Use at your own risk is all I'm saying...The brakes on these cars is nothing to screw with or second guess.

 

I'm not trying to tell you which fluid to use. It is up to you. I did not say it was compatible on my own. I was stating what the manufacturer said.

 

I understand and not trying to argue. If you could, please post your reference of where or the document that said ESP is compatible with ESL formulations..that's all and then no doubt will remain....I am genuinely interested.

 

Yep, ya OKey *** is trying to argue as always so just use ..LOL

 

Who asked you Foghorn Leghorn?..Trying to stir up some ****?..
And by the way genius...you're is how it's spelled

 

Try adding a period to end ya statement fool.

 

Grow up boy............................................... ......................................

 

As if you even know what a man is? LOL
MOVING ON NOW!

Sorry for the thread HiJack.

 

Don't know if this will satisfy you, but here goes:

Pentosin BF-DOT4LV-1L - Brake Fluid | O'Reilly Auto Parts

Then click on compatibility

 

damienedwards , DPK has made a simple and valid point , as long as it is dot 4 ESL .( and you have now found the product , all good . )

Dot 4 ESL and ESP can be safely mixed together , they are both dot 4 rated , and are both synthetic , the main difference is the WET and DRY boiling temperatures .

Oh and Bigg Will , I wouldn't worry out apologising for the thread hi jack , it's what forums are all about , you should be apologising for your rude and unnecessary comments .