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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 01:15 AM
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I need help, I put my 2016 Ftype in for a 52,000km (26Mile) service and while in the dealers workshop the car suffered engine failure.

This is what I found when they took off the supercharger, but they are refusing to admit this is an issue with the car.

Has anyone ever seen this or had this problem with the F-type, if so wht did the dealer do for you.

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Bolts are completly rusted into dust after


entire side of the engine is ruste
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 02:44 AM
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Wow, that looks extreme.
What is their explanation of what happened ?
Are you the original owner of the car ?
What was it in the dealer for ?
Without more information I would only guess that either this engine has had a long term coolant leak or sat for months out in the rain without being run. The coolant leak seems more reasonable to me.
Besides the obvious corrosion problem, I would be very concerned that pieces of that rust have fallen down into the engine when they pulled the SC off and if any of the intake valves are open then it would be in the cylinders.
Best of luck with this, let us know what happens.
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 09:28 AM
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Oh my! That is tragic! I have nothing to offer, but I'm interested in the comments.
So sorry this happened to you!
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by markevans
Hi Guys

I need help, I put my 2016 Ftype in for a 52,000km (26Mile) service and while in the dealers workshop the car suffered engine failure.

This is what I found when they took off the supercharger, but they are refusing to admit this is an issue with the car.

Has anyone ever seen this or had this problem with the F-type, if so wht did the dealer do for you.

thanks




Bolts are completly rusted into dust after


entire side of the engine is ruste
I have a 2015 FType s. I had posted previously with my issues. My spark plugs were all corroded and in fact 2 broke off into the cylinder when trying to remove. 7000 dollar repair. Mechanic mentioned they have seen this before.
the reason this happens is because the hood vents in this model allows water to enter freely into engine compartment.
this is a design flaw which needs a recall and Jaguar to fix
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Csanch
I have a 2015 FType s. I had posted previously with my issues. My spark plugs were all corroded and in fact 2 broke off into the cylinder when trying to remove. 7000 dollar repair. Mechanic mentioned they have seen this before.
the reason this happens is because the hood vents in this model allows water to enter freely into engine compartment.
this is a design flaw which needs a recall and Jaguar to fix
Do you still have the engine cover on? If so, that should divert water coming in the vents away from the engine.

The original picture has debris around the valve cover bolts. I can't tell for sure but it looks like gravel. Was the car possibly a flood victim?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 10:36 AM
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I had the same question about the debris - thought it looked like bark mulch??
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 10:56 AM
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Wow, that's quite a mess. As said, what's the history of the car? Did it live its life outdoors all the time?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 11:14 AM
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Was the car involved in a salt water flood?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lizzardo
Was the car possibly a flood victim?
This is certainly a viable hypothesis.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 12:41 PM
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That looks "flooded" to me. Curious if this car came from Texas, Alabama, or Louisiana?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 12:51 PM
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Would Carfax show if it were submitted for a flooding insurance claim?
For flooding to cause that corrosion to the top of the engine the car would have had to be immersed and there would have been other problems.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 12:57 PM
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Is the title "bonded"...in Michigan we call them "bonded" titles. Elsewhere, it might be "rebuilt"? That would be a good indication of a possible "flooded" vehicle.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 01:24 PM
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If not flooded, then something else accounts for the debris: rodents/squirrels? They chew through all sorts of things and that can cause electrical issues and or leakage issues -I have seen a number of cases of this sort. Certainly the damage we see is not normal and almost certainly does not come from normal usage of the car.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 01:37 PM
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So perhaps squirrels or mice - would explain the nut-like debris.
If they lived there long enough urine could cause the corrosion.
There must be a way to determine the VIN history to confirm/eliminate the flood theory.
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 02:25 PM
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Not necessarily flood damage… could be rain. The main cause is the black matting thats there traps water leading to corrosion of the valve cover bolts (galvanized metal)

it also increases the oil temperature (oil cooler is located under it. Best thing to do is remove that matting
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Obi
Not necessarily flood damage… could be rain. The main cause is the black matting thats there traps water leading to corrosion of the valve cover bolts (galvanized metal)

it also increases the oil temperature (oil cooler is located under it. Best thing to do is remove that matting
What about the silt ? dirt ? . I like others suspect this car has been flooded or it could be dust carried by the wind , op is in oz after all . why not just get a hard peice of black plastic and block the vents ?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by George05
What about the silt ? dirt ? . I like others suspect this car has been flooded or it could be dust carried by the wind , op is in oz after all . why not just get a hard peice of black plastic and block the vents ?
Well, if you or anyone here is the original owner (could testify that their car was never in a flood) and plans to change the ypipe when it fails, please consider taking pictures. This is more common issue than you would think

Blocking the vents would lead to heat retention
 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 06:23 PM
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Hi Guys

the car has never been in a flood, the debris that you see around the botls, are the botls themselves. They have corroded so badly that they have disolved. My guess is that there has been a coolent leak combined with a poor earth on the motor which would increase the rate at which these would corrode.

 
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Old Sep 15, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by markevans
Hi Guys

the car has never been in a flood, the debris that you see around the botls, are the botls themselves. They have corroded so badly that they have disolved. My guess is that there has been a coolent leak combined with a poor earth on the motor which would increase the rate at which these would corrode.

Yup, when fluid gets there, the matting retains it. Mine looked similar although the bolts were in a little better shape. As I mentioned above, this is a common issue
 
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Old Sep 16, 2021 | 12:06 AM
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found this on youtube . yes it is the leaking coolant that corrodes the bolts over time as can be seen on this 5.47 into the clip
 
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