2003 Jaguar X-type Fault Code P1647
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P1647 EMS
OBD II
ECM HO2 Sensor control
malfunction –
bank 2 upstream (2/1)
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code error P1647 2003 x-type
Thanks Mark,
I order the part online is made by Bosch Part # W0133-1895197 for $ 126..is this fair price? I hope is the correct part.
Is called"Air Fuel Ratio Sensor" may look very similar to the Oxygen Sensor. That may explain also when the car is cold the engine runs erratic like is running on 3 cyl. I let everyone know results after installation...
Thanks Again!!
I order the part online is made by Bosch Part # W0133-1895197 for $ 126..is this fair price? I hope is the correct part.
Is called"Air Fuel Ratio Sensor" may look very similar to the Oxygen Sensor. That may explain also when the car is cold the engine runs erratic like is running on 3 cyl. I let everyone know results after installation...
Thanks Again!!
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Sounds a little high. Rockauto has on listed for half (for OEM type Denso) but i dunno what shipping would be. Anyway, make sure you get the correct one by checking what color connector it has. One is grey and one is black. Upstream vs downstream. The connectors sit at the bottom of the battery tray at the front and are next to each other on a bracket. Follow the wire over to the sensor and you'll see which color you need.
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2003 Jaguar X-type Fault Code P1647 Fixed!! But...
Hello, I just replace the o2 sensor and Fault code P1647 is fixed! But now I still have Check Engine light on and 2 new fault codes appear.
Fault Code: P0171 and P0174
Please advise what is this new codes mean and how to fix...
Thanks,
Chrys
Fault Code: P0171 and P0174
Please advise what is this new codes mean and how to fix...
Thanks,
Chrys
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I followed your recommendations and check for vacuum leaks. I found the O rings leaking and replace them.
(By the way the bottom one is hard remove the housing ...Someone recommend cutting the old ring and try to replace the new with out remove the housing. Don't do it! It will brake! What can you do is.. Use a screwdriver when sensor almost out and gentle force up and it will come out)
But still have Fault Codes: P0171 and P0174
Can it be the mass air sensors? How can know? Keep changing is expensive
Thanks again!!
(By the way the bottom one is hard remove the housing ...Someone recommend cutting the old ring and try to replace the new with out remove the housing. Don't do it! It will brake! What can you do is.. Use a screwdriver when sensor almost out and gentle force up and it will come out)
But still have Fault Codes: P0171 and P0174
Can it be the mass air sensors? How can know? Keep changing is expensive
Thanks again!!
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I followed your recommendations and check for vacuum leaks. I found the O rings leaking and replace them.
(By the way the bottom one is hard remove the housing ...Someone recommend cutting the old ring and try to replace the new with out remove the housing. Don't do it! It will brake! What can you do is.. Use a screwdriver when sensor almost out and gentle force up and it will come out)
But still have Fault Codes: P0171 and P0174
Can it be the mass air sensors? How can know? Keep changing is expensive
Thanks again!!
(By the way the bottom one is hard remove the housing ...Someone recommend cutting the old ring and try to replace the new with out remove the housing. Don't do it! It will brake! What can you do is.. Use a screwdriver when sensor almost out and gentle force up and it will come out)
But still have Fault Codes: P0171 and P0174
Can it be the mass air sensors? How can know? Keep changing is expensive
Thanks again!!
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Hello there Mark, I've replased so Far:
Big o-rings, pvc hose, upper intake gaskets, Mass Air sensor, two small o-rings in the upper intake, Plugs, air filter.
And still getting: Fault Codes: P0171 and P0174
I have photos from my scan reader that I would like to upload..but I don't know how to..I think if someone can read the test results it may help others with same problems.
Thanks again for your help!
Big o-rings, pvc hose, upper intake gaskets, Mass Air sensor, two small o-rings in the upper intake, Plugs, air filter.
And still getting: Fault Codes: P0171 and P0174
I have photos from my scan reader that I would like to upload..but I don't know how to..I think if someone can read the test results it may help others with same problems.
Thanks again for your help!
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Is there any white crusty stuff on the brake booster pipe from the intake. I read back in the thread but didn't see if you replaced that. Those somehow corrode and leak vacuum and can cause a hard brake pedal. Post the pics if you can. Also, if you're not getting a good clear of the codes then they will pop back up. The adaptions of the engine are expecting to see a range for the air fuel ratio due to the codes. Resetting them may not always clear them out or the adaptions. We've had problems here with fuel induction services on the 5.0 engines that are popping codes. We clear the codes and even the adaptions. That usually keeps it from coming on once the customer has the vehicle.
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Hi Mark,
The is no “While crusty stuff” on the brake booster. I don’t think is a vacuum leak at this point..
Sounds to me like a misfire like gas or electric problem…could be the coils?
I notice when changed the plugs few coil tubes attached to the plugs have a nice fit and few are loose.
When driving, if step on gas pedal to down shift. The engine misfires. …but not when car is in Park.
Mark I don’t know what is “adaptions” or how to clear them..Can you please explain further?
Please read my other thread where I heve post...
P0171 & P0174 scan tool results photos
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...1-p0174-66776/
Thanks again for your help!!
The is no “While crusty stuff” on the brake booster. I don’t think is a vacuum leak at this point..
Sounds to me like a misfire like gas or electric problem…could be the coils?
I notice when changed the plugs few coil tubes attached to the plugs have a nice fit and few are loose.
When driving, if step on gas pedal to down shift. The engine misfires. …but not when car is in Park.
Mark I don’t know what is “adaptions” or how to clear them..Can you please explain further?
Please read my other thread where I heve post...
P0171 & P0174 scan tool results photos
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...1-p0174-66776/
Thanks again for your help!!
Last edited by Chrys; 02-21-2012 at 09:25 AM.
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I understand what you mean when you say you don't think it is a vacuum leak at this point. I went through the same thing a number of years ago on a 04 XJR. This car kept putting up those codes. Ultimately what happened was there was a crankcase vacuum leak. The driver side cam cover had a hole poked in it from the clamp that holds the power steering hose to the reservoir. Point of the story is that we replaced a whole lot of stuff on that car and finally found the cam cover.
What we have with your car is gonna eventually be a vacuum leak, in my opinion. What I meant about the brake booster is the check valve on the pipe that goes from the intake to the booster. It corrodes and a white crusty stuff shows up.
As far as the pics. The fuel trim is what is telling you that it thinks it is running lean. It wants to add a large amount of fuel hence the +19%. It is making this decision based on what the o2 sensors are telling it. Since you have them working again, it is most likely accurate.
One way we check for vacuum leaks in the shop is to smoke test the intake. Wherever the smoke is coming from, there's your leak.
One idea I had was to check the big vacuum nipple that goes onto the back of the intake. I've heard of the hard plastic line that goes from that, into the loom, then to the fuel pressure regulator, breaking inside the loom. You may not hear the vacuum leak since it may be in the loom. See if you can find it and check it.
Give these ideas some thought and lemme know what you think/find
What we have with your car is gonna eventually be a vacuum leak, in my opinion. What I meant about the brake booster is the check valve on the pipe that goes from the intake to the booster. It corrodes and a white crusty stuff shows up.
As far as the pics. The fuel trim is what is telling you that it thinks it is running lean. It wants to add a large amount of fuel hence the +19%. It is making this decision based on what the o2 sensors are telling it. Since you have them working again, it is most likely accurate.
One way we check for vacuum leaks in the shop is to smoke test the intake. Wherever the smoke is coming from, there's your leak.
One idea I had was to check the big vacuum nipple that goes onto the back of the intake. I've heard of the hard plastic line that goes from that, into the loom, then to the fuel pressure regulator, breaking inside the loom. You may not hear the vacuum leak since it may be in the loom. See if you can find it and check it.
Give these ideas some thought and lemme know what you think/find
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Welcome to the forum levi-mumba,
P1647 : ECM HO2 Sensor control malfunction – bank 2 upstream (2/1)
Possible Causes:
1. HO2 Sensor 2/1 heater failure.
2. HO2 Sensor 2/1 sensing circuit: short circuit to ground, short circuit to high voltage, open circuit.
3. ECM Failure.
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P1647 : ECM HO2 Sensor control malfunction – bank 2 upstream (2/1)
Possible Causes:
1. HO2 Sensor 2/1 heater failure.
2. HO2 Sensor 2/1 sensing circuit: short circuit to ground, short circuit to high voltage, open circuit.
3. ECM Failure.
When you get a minute, please follow this link New Member Area - Intro a MUST - Jaguar Forums - Jaguar Enthusiasts Forum to the New Member Area - Intro a MUST forum and post some info about yourself and your vehicle for all members to see.
In return you'll get a proper welcome and some useful advice about posting to the forum.
Graham
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2003 X type P1647 after rad change
I recently had the radiator on my 2003 Jaguar replaced. Its the 2.5 model with 55,000 miles but had an obvious leak equating to a gallon to half gallon refill every other week. But on to business at hand . After the replacement check engine light presented itself with up to 5 code. Codes are as followed.
P1000
P1647
P1582
B1262
and B1263. I have obviously research some all of the codes present and I have some feel for their definitions. But I am confused as to why they would all a sudden appear after this appear/replacement. What I would like to know is, does one code dominate the the other and I should start there? Or should I randomly attack these codes in no specific order?
P1000
P1647
P1582
B1262
and B1263. I have obviously research some all of the codes present and I have some feel for their definitions. But I am confused as to why they would all a sudden appear after this appear/replacement. What I would like to know is, does one code dominate the the other and I should start there? Or should I randomly attack these codes in no specific order?
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