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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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03 X-Type. It seem the climate controls have a mind of their own. 30-40% of the time when I restart the car the climate controls start in the Auto mode even though I have not left it in that mode. Also sometimes even though the ambient outside temp is in the high 70's or above and the inside of the car is much warmer the Air Conditioner compressor does not start. I have to turn off the unit completely for 1 -2 minutes restart the climate control unit then it blows nice cold air.

Does anyone know what is the cause of this problem?

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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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Sounds like you got issues there doubletap............sorry I can't help you mate, but, I'm sure someone will be along soon with some answers for you.
Welcome to the forum mate.

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Does anyone have a clue to what the cause is ?
 
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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C'mon guys.............anyone here had similar issues or have any suggestions for Double tap?

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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I did some research on the NTSB website looking for a TSB that might be related to this problem. I found one SBN 412931 dated March 01, 2003, that I think is related but it only says A/C system inoperative reprogram electronic control module. This service bulletin replaces XT412-S931 dated 11/02.[/align][/align]Does anyone have access to the full bulletin so I will know what it says before I go to a dealer to get it checked out and reprogrammed if necessary.[/align][/align]Thanks,[/align]Double Tap[/align]
 
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Hey Double tap.........if all else fails mate.
You could try sending a pm to Jagmaster. He is a Jagtech and I've found him very helpful in the past and also very knowledgable too.
I think its been some time since his last post, but, you could give it a go.

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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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The auto mode is just that...it's really a stupid design, but once you push the on button it assumes you want auto. If you push the AC button to turn it on, it goes into the mode you last left it.

As for the compressor not kicking on, from my experience, and I don't know why, but you have to be moving for the clutch to engage. Once it's engaged, it works fine.......


 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Did you press the button that shows bottom and top?

 
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Obviously thats the top n bottom of all your probs mate....lol

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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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I had a problem with the compressor fir the ac not working once. the fan would work, but it just blew out warm air. I disconnected the battery for a few minutes, and it started working again.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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What do you need to recharge your system or at least check it? I tried using a gauge my dad had for his 2001 ford f-350 as his is a 134 but the jag is too isn't it? Jags don't have a different kind of regrigerant do they? Also which line is it the one that comes out by itself or the one thats in the middle of the line...my car was having problems staying freezing cold and than today while it is 85 and a/c is truly needed especially for JR. the air stopped working all together while rolling out to my parents house! Than my cd player started skipping, the horn half worked when a guy pulled out in front of me and my door handle would barely work! Man when these quirks are happening they are all happening together! Almost ended up with a new cd player but didn't have a cd player to jam through the front of the lcd screen on the radio![:'(] Man I want to drive this thing off a cliff right now...anybody in the market for an 02 sport 3.0??? J/K I love quirks just not all at the same exact time!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Well, your story is like it never rains but pours some sort of .
 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Lets get Richard Hammond to blow up a Jag!

 
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Racer............you're a Top Gear convert......cool!
Hammond the Hamster rocks, even for a small guy....lol

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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Any suggestions on the air guys...I kind of need it to work and don't know what to do!
 
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Aquill...........check out a post I made that I added to the FAQ section.............has loads n loads of inof on electrics etc etc etc all in pdf file format. There may be something in there that can help, I'm not sure.
Other that that I can't help........sorry bro.

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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Ok, on the Air...you checked the fuse right? All good?
I would check the high and low pressure (you will need guages for this) if you don't have the guages...

Another way would be to turn the air on, and visually see if the compressor kicks on (listen /watch)
If the compressor comes on you may just have low refrigerant's (R134a) Check the lines for any leakage....
Buy one of them cans and follow the instructions....most will tell you to install it on the low side (blue cap, or the bigger line of the two)

If the compressor does not come on, check the low pressure switch by grounding it out...if the compressor comes on it may just mean you don't have enough freon to build up pressure which means you have a big leak....so check the lines. If the compressor does not kick on when you ground out the switch, it may mean you have a bad compressor clutch, bad low /high pressure switch.....

Also, does the Hvac center console work? No fault codes?

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Hi Aquill I researched a few similar problems on other forums and came up with the following, listed below. Just a few other things to check before you lose your sanity...lol

Jim

"With Aircon on Auto and set to lowest temp, can you see the Air Con compressor drive pulley centre going round? (stand by front right hand headlight and look down the side near to bottom of engine) if you can see stationary centre then the clutch has not engaged - suspect dodgy relay R6 in power distribution fuse box on left hand side engine, give it a jiggle 'n WD40.With the engine off follow the drive belt down to the bottom air con compressor pulley, you'll see/feel the clutch fasteners around the centre boss, with the engine on shine a torch in that area and you should be able to see movement or lack thereof.
Just a thought, I had a very obscure fault on my 2002 X type 2.5 SE which gave the same symptoms.
It turned out to be a pressure transducer which had failed and was stopping the A/C compressor from operating.
It is behind the right hand side wheel arch lining, and is a schroder valve fitting.

Apparently, the nut on the compressor backs off and eventually you'll here a "clunk" under the car as you run your cutch assembly over. The AC will suddenly get warm.
Unfortunately, this means replacing the entire compressor assembly as the clutch is not individually serviceable on the older X's. I believe the updated compressor has a serviceable clutch."
 
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