aircon pump bypass
Any experience of buying a replacement belt to bypass the aircon pump on a 2009 xytpe 2.2d. I've been advised to measure the belt length needed using string but wondered if anyone has successfully managed to do this and found a compatible belt from Ford? (6 tooth belt needs to be shorter than the standard 1640mm length...
Hope that makes sense!
Hope that makes sense!
Just a note: An "air con pump" does not exist.
The air-con unit, which is driven by the drive-belt is the "compressor".
Why would you want to bypass the compressor?
Is the compressor seized?
If not: As long as you do not switch on the Air-Con, the compressor acts as idler-pulley only and is not doing any harm.
The air-con unit, which is driven by the drive-belt is the "compressor".
Why would you want to bypass the compressor?
Is the compressor seized?
If not: As long as you do not switch on the Air-Con, the compressor acts as idler-pulley only and is not doing any harm.
Hi Peter,
Thanks for your reply and clarification. Yes, the compressor seized up and was glowing red by the time I was able to pull over, hence wanting to bypass it with a shorter length belt. I rarely use air con anyway so that feature won't be missed. Having a new compressor fitted would cost more than the car is worth too.
My understanding of the car is that it shares its 2.2 diesel engine with a few other Ford models so a belt might be out there that fits perfectly off the shelf rather than guessing.
I was wondering if anyone out there has done this fix successfully...
Thanks for your reply and clarification. Yes, the compressor seized up and was glowing red by the time I was able to pull over, hence wanting to bypass it with a shorter length belt. I rarely use air con anyway so that feature won't be missed. Having a new compressor fitted would cost more than the car is worth too.
My understanding of the car is that it shares its 2.2 diesel engine with a few other Ford models so a belt might be out there that fits perfectly off the shelf rather than guessing.
I was wondering if anyone out there has done this fix successfully...
OK, I figured that the only reason to bypass the compressor is, if that is seized:
I had that on my van, and it produced an ear-shattering squealing sound, which I however could not hear, because it just had happen (it figures), when I had to drive to a far away hospital after sudden hearing loss (which return meanwhile, luckily. But me driving with the seized compressor meant that the drive belt tore apart after 180km. I drove to a parts-store, bought a belt and tool and fixed it there on the parking lot (luckily mine was only seized in the engaged mode, i.e. it still acted as idler pulley with the AC in OFF-mode. If I had been able to hear the squealing, I would have turned off the AC to start with and then I would not have had an issue in the first place.
But it looks like your compressor is ALSO seized while the AC is switched OFF, correct?
All the "members of my Trinity of X-Types" have petrol engines, hence, I do not know the layout of the drive-belt pulley system.
But this is obvious: If you want to replace the OE drive belt with a shorter one, you need to be able to "visualize" a new belt routing, which drives everything else as before without touching the still mounted compressor-pulley. If that is not possible: Is it an option to drive everything as before with a shorter belt with the compressor removed?
and if you see a possible new routing, you simply measure the distance of that new "short-cut" make 2 markings on the OE belt from where to where you are measuring (in a straight line), then remove the tension of the tensioner pulley, remove the OE belt, measure the "OE" distance between those two markings, and then you can calculate:
Length of new belt = Total length of OE belt - length of OE belts between those 2 markings + length of newly measured short-cut.
If you google the part number of the OE belt, you should be able to find the OE length...
Then order a belt with the correct profile and the just established new length.
I had that on my van, and it produced an ear-shattering squealing sound, which I however could not hear, because it just had happen (it figures), when I had to drive to a far away hospital after sudden hearing loss (which return meanwhile, luckily. But me driving with the seized compressor meant that the drive belt tore apart after 180km. I drove to a parts-store, bought a belt and tool and fixed it there on the parking lot (luckily mine was only seized in the engaged mode, i.e. it still acted as idler pulley with the AC in OFF-mode. If I had been able to hear the squealing, I would have turned off the AC to start with and then I would not have had an issue in the first place.
But it looks like your compressor is ALSO seized while the AC is switched OFF, correct?
All the "members of my Trinity of X-Types" have petrol engines, hence, I do not know the layout of the drive-belt pulley system.
But this is obvious: If you want to replace the OE drive belt with a shorter one, you need to be able to "visualize" a new belt routing, which drives everything else as before without touching the still mounted compressor-pulley. If that is not possible: Is it an option to drive everything as before with a shorter belt with the compressor removed?
and if you see a possible new routing, you simply measure the distance of that new "short-cut" make 2 markings on the OE belt from where to where you are measuring (in a straight line), then remove the tension of the tensioner pulley, remove the OE belt, measure the "OE" distance between those two markings, and then you can calculate:
Length of new belt = Total length of OE belt - length of OE belts between those 2 markings + length of newly measured short-cut.
If you google the part number of the OE belt, you should be able to find the OE length...
Then order a belt with the correct profile and the just established new length.
Just a note: An "air con pump" does not exist.
The air-con unit, which is driven by the drive-belt is the "compressor".
Why would you want to bypass the compressor?
Is the compressor seized?
If not: As long as you do not switch on the Air-Con, the compressor acts as idler-pulley only and is not doing any harm.
The air-con unit, which is driven by the drive-belt is the "compressor".
Why would you want to bypass the compressor?
Is the compressor seized?
If not: As long as you do not switch on the Air-Con, the compressor acts as idler-pulley only and is not doing any harm.
Thanks for your responses and suggestions. 155k miles and counting!
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