Am I being conned?
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Am I being conned?
Hi folks,
Please excuse the length of this post but I could really do with some advice.
I am new here but I have a question that I hope someone can help with.
About a month ago I bought a 2005 Jaguar X type estate SE 2.0 diesel. 144k miles on the clock, full service history & a 2 year warranty.
I drove to Spain & broke down while over there, big cloud of black smoke and complete loss of power then white smoke while ticking over (stuttering).
Green Flag to the rescue, they took the car to a garage who called me and told me €2400 and 7 days to repair. They only gave me half an idea of what was wrong (language barrier) but they said something about the cylinders or dropped valve.
No repairs were done & green flag re-patriated the car.
When the car arrived in the UK, the Spanish garage had left it as it was when I said no to the repair, ie. the cover that goes over the injectors was removed and in the boot along with the pipe and rail thereby exposing the injectors.
The car was taken to the garage from where I purchased it for repair under warranty. The garage contacted me and said that the fuel pump had gone and they will repair that under warranty, but they also said that the Spanish garage had damaged the injectors by continually trying to start the engine with a broken fuel pump and I would have to pay for that.
They are quoting £800 to fit refurbished injectors.
So, my question is this: Is what they are saying plausible, can the injectors be damaged by trying to start the car with a faulty fuel pump, or are they trying it on to get me to pay for the repairs that should be done under warranty?
Thank you in anticipation of assistance.
Please excuse the length of this post but I could really do with some advice.
I am new here but I have a question that I hope someone can help with.
About a month ago I bought a 2005 Jaguar X type estate SE 2.0 diesel. 144k miles on the clock, full service history & a 2 year warranty.
I drove to Spain & broke down while over there, big cloud of black smoke and complete loss of power then white smoke while ticking over (stuttering).
Green Flag to the rescue, they took the car to a garage who called me and told me €2400 and 7 days to repair. They only gave me half an idea of what was wrong (language barrier) but they said something about the cylinders or dropped valve.
No repairs were done & green flag re-patriated the car.
When the car arrived in the UK, the Spanish garage had left it as it was when I said no to the repair, ie. the cover that goes over the injectors was removed and in the boot along with the pipe and rail thereby exposing the injectors.
The car was taken to the garage from where I purchased it for repair under warranty. The garage contacted me and said that the fuel pump had gone and they will repair that under warranty, but they also said that the Spanish garage had damaged the injectors by continually trying to start the engine with a broken fuel pump and I would have to pay for that.
They are quoting £800 to fit refurbished injectors.
So, my question is this: Is what they are saying plausible, can the injectors be damaged by trying to start the car with a faulty fuel pump, or are they trying it on to get me to pay for the repairs that should be done under warranty?
Thank you in anticipation of assistance.
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Hello & welcome , sorry about your problem . I don't do diesels myself .A 2005 X type is almost 10 yrs old & its value is £2000---£3000 tops . Looks like you may have to spend the actual value of the car to get it back on the road . If you are handy with a spanner , you could go down the DIY route .I spent a lot of time in the motor trade & as far as any car is concerned I tend to do a " Risk Assesment" 1/. Would I drive to Spain in a 2005 JaguarX type diesel that had 144.000 on the clock ?? No chance !! 8 out of 10 X type problems reported on UK Jaguar Forums are the unreliable diesel models. I would recommend any X type owner tohave a friendly bank manager & a nice big limit on their credit card .
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123tezza, it is sounding like you are being told a fairly accurate story. Keep in mind that on a diesel engine, the injectors are lubricated by the diesel fuel running through the injector (hence why running something other than road diesel fuel in your car can be a bad idea). So, trying to start the engine with no fuel could have damaged the injectors. Now, who is to pay for that can be argued.
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123tezza, it is sounding like you are being told a fairly accurate story. Keep in mind that on a diesel engine, the injectors are lubricated by the diesel fuel running through the injector (hence why running something other than road diesel fuel in your car can be a bad idea). So, trying to start the engine with no fuel could have damaged the injectors. Now, who is to pay for that can be argued.
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