cat delete?
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cat delete?
Hi my catalytic converters are bad, i was wondering if anyone had ever run their cars with "test pipes" I know that the o2 sensor might be a problem, so i have a few of the spacers ordered. One problem im having is finding one that is specifically designed for the x-type. Maybe i can find a shop that will make one for me. To answer the question you might already have, no there is no emission testing out here in the sticks, & yes i have a p0420 code. Any ideas? thoughts? concerns?
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unclefish, while they don't make a cat delete for the kitty, what you can do is find the exhaust headers from a Ford 3.0L motor and use that. The exhaust headers will bolt right up to the block and then all you have to do is extend the pipes to fill in the gap. Just be ready for lots of codes to come up. The least of your problems being the P0420/P0430 codes.
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Hi my catalytic converters are bad, i was wondering if anyone had ever run their cars with "test pipes" I know that the o2 sensor might be a problem, so i have a few of the spacers ordered. One problem im having is finding one that is specifically designed for the x-type. Maybe i can find a shop that will make one for me. To answer the question you might already have, no there is no emission testing out here in the sticks, & yes i have a p0420 code. Any ideas? thoughts? concerns?
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yes, i also googled those but, i have heard that using anything but genuine jaguar cats are just a waste of money and time. xtypeparts.com has a few that i might be able to use. Here is my thinking; I ordered cataclean (i will post my review and results in a new thread) if that doesn't work, then i will probably use and o2 spacer installed into the stock cats. If that doesn't work then i will replace the cats with used jag parts. any thoughts on the new plan?
p.s. thanks to all
p.s. thanks to all
Last edited by Green Machine; 09-22-2012 at 06:36 PM.
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I emptied recently catalysts and assembled them back empty. Of course immediately appeared errors P0420 and P0430 and the noise is a little larger. I installed a device that raises the voltage of sensors with 0.15V (offset). This deceives ECM that the oxygen level is low. You can see in the picture below. There on one sensor device is mounted, and the other's not.
But it appeared that this is not enough because:
"The fuelling is cycled rich and lean (called dither) by approximately 3% to get a reaction at the downstream Oxygen Sensor (O2S). At the
start of the monitor, delay counters operate so that the fuelling is stable when the diagnosis takes place."
This means that ECU observed and reaction time of the sensor, not just oxygen level. So I put one tube that covers the holes of the sensors about 80% and thus slows their reaction. And "check engine" disappear!
But it appeared that this is not enough because:
"The fuelling is cycled rich and lean (called dither) by approximately 3% to get a reaction at the downstream Oxygen Sensor (O2S). At the
start of the monitor, delay counters operate so that the fuelling is stable when the diagnosis takes place."
This means that ECU observed and reaction time of the sensor, not just oxygen level. So I put one tube that covers the holes of the sensors about 80% and thus slows their reaction. And "check engine" disappear!
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I emptied recently catalysts and assembled them back empty. Of course immediately appeared errors P0420 and P0430 and the noise is a little larger. I installed a device that raises the voltage of sensors with 0.15V (offset). This deceives ECM that the oxygen level is low. You can see in the picture below. There on one sensor device is mounted, and the other's not.
But it appeared that this is not enough because:
"The fuelling is cycled rich and lean (called dither) by approximately 3% to get a reaction at the downstream Oxygen Sensor (O2S). At the
start of the monitor, delay counters operate so that the fuelling is stable when the diagnosis takes place."
This means that ECU observed and reaction time of the sensor, not just oxygen level. So I put one tube that covers the holes of the sensors about 80% and thus slows their reaction. And "check engine" disappear!
But it appeared that this is not enough because:
"The fuelling is cycled rich and lean (called dither) by approximately 3% to get a reaction at the downstream Oxygen Sensor (O2S). At the
start of the monitor, delay counters operate so that the fuelling is stable when the diagnosis takes place."
This means that ECU observed and reaction time of the sensor, not just oxygen level. So I put one tube that covers the holes of the sensors about 80% and thus slows their reaction. And "check engine" disappear!
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It should. But I do not know how long it should be. And what a bore diameter. It is different for different engines for success.
Sorry for my english. It is very difficult to me to expressing right. Just want to share my experience to help.
Sorry for my english. It is very difficult to me to expressing right. Just want to share my experience to help.
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used 2 bottles of Cataclean on my engine over the course of 2 weeks. Put in premium fuel AND octane booster. took it to the jag dealer. they said it is the O2 sensors now (already had those codes) and that the p0420 code is not there. Also the 'smell' of what i would call and engine running rich is gone. I assume this is also the smell of the exhaust being clogged by the cats. It definitely has more power. cruising at 100mph is not sweat for this 10 year old car.
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yes, i also googled those but, i have heard that using anything but genuine jaguar cats are just a waste of money and time. xtypeparts.com has a few that i might be able to use. Here is my thinking; I ordered cataclean (i will post my review and results in a new thread) if that doesn't work, then i will probably use and o2 spacer installed into the stock cats. If that doesn't work then i will replace the cats with used jag parts. any thoughts on the new plan?
p.s. thanks to all
p.s. thanks to all
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